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Post by pepperhead212 on Jan 12, 2018 20:27:25 GMT -5
Here is my list for 2018, subject to change, of course. NewBarossa Fest Dwarf Burracker's Favorite Coorong Pink Giant Garden Paste Kelly Green Dwarf Kelloggs Breakfast Pink Oxheart Pretty in Pink Summer Sunrise Sunset Falls Sweet Sue Dwarf OldAmish Gold Slicer Arkansas Traveler (grew years ago) Big Beef Green Zebra (favorite for years) KBX (grew years ago) Sweet Carneros Pink Cherries (all old)Green Tiger Porter (sort of a large cherry) Sunsugar Sweet Treats Still haven't found any new cherries that looked interesting. Those dwarfs I got seeds for are the larger ones - 4-6 feet - which I got so that I could put them closer together, or at least as close as I usually plant tomatoes, without them over-running each other, which some of those in the SIPs have done. Those, I'll just plant farther apart! That Burracker's Favorite I got as a freebie, but had never heard of it. So I did some searches, and here only an inactive member had it on a list, but that was the only post it was on. On Tomato Depot, however, one of the most active members had it on her list for this season, and a previous season, so I figured that it had made an impression. She posted a good review of it for me, as well as a photo of two tomatoes well over a pound, yellow with pink, and definiely a beefsteak tomato! So I am going to try at least one in an SIP. Anybody else try these yet?
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 12, 2018 21:04:23 GMT -5
pepperhead212I've tried a few of those. Kellogg's Breakfast Pink Oxheart Arkansas Traveler KBX Sun Sugar Porter I've been growing Porter since I was a yougin'. We was watching Ag show called Johnny Watkins and he was showing how to raise, nice looking tomatoes by punching holes in a can and planting it beside the tomato, so the fertilizer would get down to the roots. Me and my Uncle went right out to the garden to try this new trick. That garden year holds a very fond memory in my heart. I'm so undecided this year. I just can't do too many anymore. It's easy to get carried away planting seeds, but I can't tend to many.
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Post by spike on Jan 12, 2018 21:15:31 GMT -5
I am still a couple of months away from even being about to think about starting seeds so not real sure just yet. I know I tried a lot of different types last year but have to cut back on that this year. I am running low on my canning so need to restock.
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Post by ladymarmalade on Jan 12, 2018 21:27:54 GMT -5
You will really like the Pink Oxheart.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 12, 2018 21:54:36 GMT -5
My wife was looking through my stash of seeds and busted out laughing. I asked her what's so funny? She Said you got a tomato called "Monkey's Ass"
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Post by paquebot on Jan 13, 2018 4:16:08 GMT -5
What I have to do is think of some varieties that are very low in seed supply. For example, several scarce Wisconsin varieties are almost gone. Don't want to lose them. As an example, Wisconsin Chief was probably gone in the US but found in a German seed bank. Need to replenish those seeds along with Greenbush Italian. Other than home where I can fit in 30 varieties, 2018 is limbo. Within a week or so I'll have a backlog of over 600 varieties. This is NOT working out as planned when I started saving tomato seeds almost 40 years ago!
Martin
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Jan 13, 2018 14:15:50 GMT -5
Still dithering about my own tomato lists. More like procrastinating, since I have soooo many more tomato varieties to grow than I have space for! Back to your question, pepperhead212, I've grown: Amish Gold Slicer, Arkansas Traveler, Big Beef (don't think my seeds were true), Sweet Carneros Pink, Porter, and SunSugar. Actually I think you got seeds for Sweet Carneros Pink from me, right? It is a great little tomato. And SunSugar is a long-time favorite of mine. Like I said, I haven't made any final decisions yet, but some of the likely candidates for my spring tomato list are: Canestrino Della Garfagnana Iva's Red Berry (tried it last year but I don't think those seeds were true; got seeds from another source) Ivan Mrs. Maxwell's Big Italian Not Surpriz (2 plants) OS Pink PPIS F5 (Pruden's Purple x Indian Stripe) Rebel Yell (F9; I was growing F6-F7 before and I want to see if it's different) That leaves me with 3-5 spaces in the garden to fill and seeds for over a hundred candidate varieties.
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Post by tomike on Jan 13, 2018 16:02:13 GMT -5
You will really like the Pink Oxheart. Yes, you will like that one for sure.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 13, 2018 16:26:54 GMT -5
Another tomato that I highly recommend to everyone is costoluto Genovese. I think that's the prettiest tomato ever.
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Post by paulf on Jan 13, 2018 18:18:29 GMT -5
We are still at least six weeks from seed starting but I may as well get a list started. It is always much longer than the final so you asked for it. My tomato theme this year is blacks and hearts, heavy on the blacks, so most of the cuts will be in the hearts.
Blacks Bear Creek Brandywine Black Black Cherry Brad's Black Oxheart Carbon Cherokee Purple Black Black Burgundy Cherokee Chocolate Purple Hillbilly Black form Tula D.B. Cooper Aker's West Virginia Black Indian Dark Violet Beefsteak Shokoladnoe Chudo Vorlon Black Giant Black Bear Mavritanskie Morado Chocolate PPP X PP C Cherokee Black Reinhard's Purple Heart Amazon Chocolate Indische Fleisch Morado Cuevas De San Marcos
Hearts
Butter and Bull's Heart Coeur de Velours Fish Lake Oxheart Hungarian Heart Joe's Pink Oxheart Lidmill's Pink Heart Nicky Crain Old Fashioned Oxheart Red Butter Heart Sylvan Guame Volovie Ukho (Ox Ear) Wes Zoe's Big Red Eagle's Beak German Red Strawberry Indiana Red Kosovo
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Post by tomike on Jan 13, 2018 18:57:15 GMT -5
Another tomato that I highly recommend to everyone is costoluto Genovese. I think that's the prettiest tomato ever. May I ask the size that you managed to obtain with this variety because when I grew them with seeds from Italy.
I only managed to get medium size tomatoes but very tasty....
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 13, 2018 19:25:22 GMT -5
Another tomato that I highly recommend to everyone is costoluto Genovese. I think that's the prettiest tomato ever. May I ask the size that you managed to obtain with this variety because when I grew them with seeds from Italy.
I only managed to get medium size tomatoes but very tasty....
Mine were medium sized too, but ruffed and very pretty. Reminds me of flower petals
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Post by aqua on Jan 14, 2018 10:09:36 GMT -5
Another tomato that I highly recommend to everyone is costoluto Genovese. I think that's the prettiest tomato ever. May I ask the size that you managed to obtain with this variety because when I grew them with seeds from Italy.
I only managed to get medium size tomatoes but very tasty....
I have grown the Ceylon, it was only about maybe 2" in diameter at it's largest but it was so delicious, and it looked a lot like the Costuluto Genovese, which grew poorly for me. The Ceylon was well-loved by everyone who ate it, and it was so pretty to look at, like tiny red pumpkins. I looked over everyone's tomato seed lists, and I don't see anyone growing what I grow. Maybe it is my location? Or lack of experience? Or lack of garden space? Chocolate Cherry - from saved seed Jasper - from saved seed Gold Nugget - from saved seed MoneyMaker - from saved seed Everglades - from saved seed Ceylon Ananis Noire - if I get seeds Brad's Atomic - a new one Orange Orangutan - a gift A few other new ones that were gifts I would like to try some dark ones, like purple standards, but with my horrid heat and humidity, I'm not sure what could handle this area's weather.
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Post by paulf on Jan 14, 2018 11:58:50 GMT -5
Aqua: You are growing several small sized tomatoes and a couple of colorful varieties. Brad's Atomic from Wild Boar Farms is the strangest looking of the bunch. It will be interesting to hear about how it tastes. The only one I don't about is Everglades but it sounds like a Florida tomato.
You have to grow what works for you.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 14, 2018 12:12:54 GMT -5
You have to grow what works for you. Wise words spoken above. most of my failures have been from trying to get northern varieties to grow here. Ada's Red Hope is a prime example. Most of you have probably not even heard of it, but an internet friend gave me her aunt's seed for this tomato. It took many attempts and a few years to get me a tomato, but I finally did it. You will be be less stressed if you grow what's easiest, but I'm a hard headed man.
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Jan 14, 2018 14:05:46 GMT -5
You have to grow what works for you. Wise words spoken above. most of my failures have been from trying to get northern varieties to grow here. Ada's Red Hope is a prime example. Most of you have probably not even heard of it, but an internet friend gave me her aunt's seed for this tomato. It took many attempts and a few years to get me a tomato, but I finally did it. You will be be less stressed if you grow what's easiest, but I'm a hard headed man. ^ This. But I still try to grow those northern varieties sometimes. I'm a hard-headed woman. paulf, if you grow Black Brandywine, I'll be really interested to hear your opinion of it. I have resisted the urge to buy seeds for it because Brandywine is a terrible producer for me (delicious, though). But it looks absolutely gorgeous in the advertising photos and I drool over it every time I see it. aqua, Orange Orangutan is a really nice tomato. Moderate production, but I got some really pretty glowing orange beefsteaks with a delicious sweet flavor before the summer diseases took down the plant. I think you'll like it.
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Post by mgulfcoastguy on Jan 14, 2018 14:53:11 GMT -5
Wise words spoken above. most of my failures have been from trying to get northern varieties to grow here. Ada's Red Hope is a prime example. Most of you have probably not even heard of it, but an internet friend gave me her aunt's seed for this tomato. It took many attempts and a few years to get me a tomato, but I finally did it. You will be be less stressed if you grow what's easiest, but I'm a hard headed man. ^ This. But I still try to grow those northern varieties sometimes. I'm a hard-headed woman. paulf , if you grow Black Brandywine, I'll be really interested to hear your opinion of it. I have resisted the urge to buy seeds for it because Brandywine is a terrible producer for me (delicious, though). But it looks absolutely gorgeous in the advertising photos and I drool over it every time I see it. aqua , Orange Orangutan is a really nice tomato. Moderate production, but I got some really pretty glowing orange beefsteaks with a delicious sweet flavor before the summer diseases took down the plant. I think you'll like it. I agree with Hairy. I've had several failures with varieties of the famed Brandywine esteemed by those up in the frost belt. On the other hand I have heard many of those people disappointed in Cherokee Purple with grows so easily and well down here.
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Post by paulf on Jan 14, 2018 15:11:41 GMT -5
Very rarely do I get skunked by any variety grown here. We are not really north but farther north than south...makes sense? I attribute any low production to the year and my practices rather than the variety.
I will definitely be growing Black Brandywine (some places called Brandywine Black) and report back.
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Post by tomike on Jan 14, 2018 15:23:50 GMT -5
I have seen a few typos in this post and I will try to help out with the French paulf Coeur de Velour(s) aqua Ananas Noir
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Post by pepperhead212 on Jan 14, 2018 18:33:20 GMT -5
Back to your question, pepperhead212, I've grown: Amish Gold Slicer, Arkansas Traveler, Big Beef (don't think my seeds were true), Sweet Carneros Pink, Porter, and SunSugar. Actually I think you got seeds for Sweet Carneros Pink from me, right? It is a great little tomato. I didn't get Sweet Carneros Pink from you, but I did get Porter from you, and it's been 2 years since I grew it, only because I had large numbers of small varieties to try those seasons. This year, only a few cherries, so I checked those seeds I saved in 2015, and got fairly good germination, so I added it to the list. Sweet Carneros Pink I began growing a couple years before I started the EBs, whenever that was, and the one drawback was that the first 8-10 on each plant would have BER. Once settled in, not a single one! And they were so productive that I figured that was a minor problem, and they were also in the top 3 or 4 in taste tests. They did better in SIPs, as most do, with only 1 or 2 BER, and the fruits were sometimes twice the size. Not very heat resistant - the reason I haven't used them for a couple of years, but I'll take a chance!
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Post by aqua on Jan 15, 2018 17:23:17 GMT -5
paulf, the everglades tomatoes are so tiny, like blueberries. I would be happy to send you some seeds if you'd like, but it seems like they have a long growing period. But they look SO CUTE on the vine, and it's so much fun to pick a bowl or two of them. I will share pictures of the Brad's Atomic.
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Post by paquebot on Jan 15, 2018 22:43:18 GMT -5
Really on my way! I've committed to growing Amurskiy Tigr, Erotica, and San Francisco Fog for a Facebook group seed bank. (Would probably not have selected them otherwise.) Then there are 3 coming from Romania which will look like Tomike's avatar but bigger. With the main cold frame set up for 60 varieties, only have to select 54 more!
Martin
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Post by brownrexx on Jan 18, 2018 9:30:36 GMT -5
I don't eat a lot of raw tomatoes myself (I like them cooked) but hubby loves them. He has never liked red cherry tomatoes but I am convinced that I have never grown a good one. He liked the Sun Sugar that I grew last year although he did get tired of the sweetness. He likes acidity in a red tomato so I am asking for recommendation for a good tasting red cherry tomato.
I don't care about huge productivity, I just want a good mix of acid and sweet. A real sweet red is not what I want.
What do you recommend? I only want to grow one red cherry plant. I will also be trying the Black Cherry.
Thanks
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Post by mgulfcoastguy on Jan 18, 2018 9:56:42 GMT -5
You could try Fox Cherry.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 18, 2018 9:59:18 GMT -5
brownrexx I think you will like Black Cherry. It's the one plant I continued to grow even in town. I've been saving seeds for it for many years. I don't know why, it's just something I do. I think if you want a big tomato flavor in a smaller tomato maybe give Porter a try. It's not a real small tomato. I'd say ping pong ball. I'm not sure how it would fare in your climate as it was bred for Texas. They also have an "improved" Porter, but I never grew that one. I've heard good things about Juliet, but never grown it myself. If I can get wify to quit rearranging the RV for a couple of minutes, we'll bring to igloo inside and go through my seed stash.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 18, 2018 10:05:40 GMT -5
paquebot, Go Martin Go! I envy you, I really do. I loved growing all those tomatoes when I could. Man, I hope you will share photos on here!
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Post by paquebot on Jan 18, 2018 10:54:33 GMT -5
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Post by ladymarmalade on Jan 18, 2018 11:06:52 GMT -5
Whaaaaat!? What a cool article Martin!!
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 18, 2018 13:17:09 GMT -5
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Jan 18, 2018 13:19:59 GMT -5
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