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Post by brownrexx on Oct 28, 2019 6:38:30 GMT -5
Do you grow any edibles indoors over the Winter?
I only grow some parsley and possibly I may try some thyme this year.
I have not had much luck with anything else because I do not want to use supplemental lighting.
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Post by paulf on Oct 28, 2019 9:43:50 GMT -5
All the container plants are safely indoors and there are a few herbs in pots in the windows. We run humidifiers all winter to try and keep the plants happy. Tried peppers in pots a few years back without much success. Light is not the deciding factor, humidity is.
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Post by september on Oct 28, 2019 10:23:27 GMT -5
I brought pepper plants in several years, and despite a good cleaning, they always ended up spreading aphids to other house plants by the end of winter, and to my seedling starts in March. So no more fall pepper plants! I've tried growing dwarf and micro tomatoes inside, but I don't get enough sunny days in the fall and winter, so even in a south window they get too lanky and eventually get mildew, even with a part time fan. Like brownrexx , I'm not too excited about using artificial light, though a shorter term project like hydroponic lettuce is mighty tempting. I have a rosemary plant that comes indoors. Maybe I will start some dill in a pot, didn't get any frozen fresh this year.
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Post by pepperhead212 on Oct 28, 2019 10:36:06 GMT -5
The fruiting plants, like peppers and tomatoes, need much more light than the herbs and greens that I grown indoors. And many will need supplemental lighting, though the lime trees, curry tree, and bay laurel, all do OK in front of that south facing window, which I just cleared for them last night. They will all be in by the end of this week!
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Post by Gianna on Oct 28, 2019 18:43:05 GMT -5
I'm attempting to grow lots of salad greens inside this year. Lettuce and baby greens such as mizuna, tatsoi, dino kale, etc. And pea and sunflower microgreens. The past couple days my large salads have been mostly things I've grown. I could grow all of these outdoors, but I want the convenience of being able to pick at any time of the day, in any weather. As well as not have to deal with birds and squirrels, etc.
I also was hesitant about using supplemental indoor lighting. Mostly during the day, all day, the plants are in large south-facing windows in direct sunlight. That isnt however enough for healthy growth - I do not like spindly greens. And the days are getting even shorter. So I got some inexpensive LED light bars from Amazon. High intensity white light. Good for vegetative growth, but not flowering/fruiting. And the plants are doing so much better after just a week or so. At 19 cents/kilowatt hour, and 4 lights going, it costs about 20 cents total to run them about 12 hours every night. Worth it to me for really good salad greens.
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Post by frank on Apr 22, 2020 17:08:29 GMT -5
I am growing veggies from seed for the first time. I potted up my tomatoes after a month in small cells. Didn't have larger pots so I made newspaper planters about 6 inches tall and buried the stems a little to promote new roots on the stems. right now I have alot of yellowish leaves, getting nervous. Anyone experience this?
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Post by daylilydude on Apr 22, 2020 19:17:44 GMT -5
Let me start off by welcoming you to Not Just Tomatoes frank, and I haven't had the yellowing affect, but I put my mater plants out to get them ready for planting and some of them have gotten sunburned... crossing my fingers for the both of us.
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Post by bestofour on Apr 22, 2020 22:02:10 GMT -5
I am growing veggies from seed for the first time. I potted up my tomatoes after a month in small cells. Didn't have larger pots so I made newspaper planters about 6 inches tall and buried the stems a little to promote new roots on the stems. right now I have alot of yellowish leaves, getting nervous. Anyone experience this? Are your tomatoes inside? Maybe not enough sun light or water. I am fortunate that I can leave my stuff outside; parsley and rosemary stay out all winter and do just fine.
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Apr 23, 2020 8:31:24 GMT -5
Hi, frank. Welcome to NJT! Sorry to hear that your tomato seedlings are yellowing. What are they growing in? Seed starter mix, potting mix, or something else? If they are not getting enough water they would probably be wilting as well as yellowing. Yellowing with no wilting is more likely because of overwatering, at least in my experience. And new gardeners are more likely to overwater...it's very easy to "love" your baby plants too much. Nutritional problems also cause yellowing, which is why I asked what you're growing the seedlings in. Widespread yellowing all over the plants (not just a yellowing leaf or two at the bottom of each plant) sounds likely to be a nutritional problem to me. Seed starting mixes have very little nutrition, and you should pot pot up your tomatoes in potting mix/potting soil. If you don't get them out of the seed starting mix, then you need to feed them. Half-strength liquid or soluble fertilizers are a good bet. I suggest half-strength because seedlings get fertilizer burn easily. And over-feeding is another possible cause of yellowing. Insufficient light can also cause yellowing. Window light is rarely enough for tomato seedlings. Are your plants tall with thin stems? That is another sign of insufficient light since the plants are "reaching" for more light. Put them under a grow light for 12 hours a day. If the yellowing is accompanied by spots or lesions, you could have a disease. Here's a link to an article about causes of yellowing on tomato seedlings, along with some pictures that might help you diagnose your problem: dengarden.com/gardening/Yellow-leaves-on-tomato-plants-Get-rid-of-yellow-tomato-leavesGood luck!
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Post by frank on Apr 23, 2020 9:33:51 GMT -5
Thanks Laura, i planted in a "pro Mix" commercial potting mix, screened out the bark particles. They grow on heat mats, under 6400K lights for 12-14 hrs a day. I tried a diluted nitrogen fertilizer on 4 of the plants and they turned beautiful green in a few days. I have watered the rest the same and await results but not sure about them. These six inch tall cylindrical pots are dry on top, moist on bottom, and they are nested together so the ones centered on the trays stay moist longer than the ones on the outer perimeter. I think they need more water but i've been cautious. Unpacked one today and found no mold. Thanks for the link. I'll read it right now
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Post by spike on Apr 23, 2020 9:56:54 GMT -5
Hello there frank!! Let me just say right up front that I am useless to you and your questions. I also come here to get answers (and these people are all amazing), so you are in the right place. OH and Hello there! Pleasedtameetcha!
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Apr 23, 2020 12:08:00 GMT -5
frank, if the dilute fertilizer worked for the first plants, I think I would wait to see if it works for others before changing your watering routine. I use Pro-Mix for seedlings often, and about a month from seeding is when I start feeding them. With regards to the watering, as long as the plants' roots have grown down to the bottoms of the pots, the plants should be fine with the potting mix going a little dry on top while the bottoms are moist. Plants deal with similar situations frequently when planted in the ground outside. And letting the top of the soil dry out a bit between waterings helps prevent algae and mold from growing on the tops of the soil, and discourages fungus gnats, too. Just don't let the plants wilt, and make sure all of the Pro-Mix gets damp (not soaked) when you do water. It sounds like you have the lighting right, too.
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Post by frank on Apr 23, 2020 14:41:41 GMT -5
Hello Spike, nice to meet you too. Thanks to you and all for the warm welcome.
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Post by frank on Apr 23, 2020 14:49:40 GMT -5
Hi Laura, I feel like you're looking over my shoulder. My experience here is just as you have described. I'll keep a close eye for what might develop but I think I just need patience. Want to know patience? I also grow cacti and succulents from seed. Just potted some up after a year under lights, heat, ziplock bags.
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Post by spike on Apr 23, 2020 16:20:04 GMT -5
Want to know patience? I also grow cacti and succulents from seed. ~Jaw hits floor~ I am in awe good Sir!
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Apr 24, 2020 12:02:37 GMT -5
I am in awe, too. I have a hard time waiting for parsley or celery to come up, and they only take 3-4 weeks. (Luckily I had plenty of parsley volunteers in the garden this year so I didn't have to wait for parsley this year.) I'd never have the patience for cacti or succulents from seed!
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Post by coppice on Apr 25, 2020 1:41:36 GMT -5
I have paprika and tomato on my lighted benches, tucked in between tender trees. One is a bay laurel, so its on the menu too.
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Post by frank on Jun 3, 2020 11:32:41 GMT -5
So I resolved all my seedling issues and got all my veggies in the ground. Had enough for my Son and my Cousin. All doing great. suddenly a massive aphid infestation. Sprayed some with neem oil solution, the rest with homemade insecticidal soap. Tried to wash them off with mist sprayer on my hose but I felt it was too rough. Lots of the critters are dead but some still hanging on. A few days ago I noticed the new growth was curling. I think I might be blocking the stomata and causing the plants to pause. They look better today, I think the rain helped but some leaves are shiny from the neem oil. It's going to rain again today so I hope they get rinsed off.
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Jun 4, 2020 9:12:27 GMT -5
Is there a difference in the curling between the ones sprayed with insecticidal soap and the ones sprayed with neem?
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Post by frank on Jun 10, 2020 6:32:59 GMT -5
they were about the same but have uncurled and are continuing to grow. Unfortunately the leaf damage from the aphids is starting to show. Lacewing larvae is arriving today. New growth is ok but being attacked. I think I have prepared healthy plants and soil and they are enduring the problem at the moment. I don't know why this year is different the the others but I have found flea beetles on my eggplant, white flies on kohlrabi, and tiny slugs on my lettuce.
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Post by domination2580th on Aug 21, 2020 11:01:46 GMT -5
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Post by september on Aug 22, 2020 0:50:04 GMT -5
I no longer bring in peppers to overwinter because they always end up with aphids they spread to my other plants. This despite thorough cleaning and rinsing. My fuchsias can have aphids some years too, but I cut them back to bare branches before they come in, and soap those well too, and there is not much for them to survive on so I've been mostly lucky there. Aphids along with scale insects are almost impossible to totally eliminate. You may not see any for a few weeks, but then suddenly there they are again.
What is that white plant in the last picture?
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Post by domination2580th on Aug 22, 2020 1:42:50 GMT -5
I no longer bring in peppers to overwinter because they always end up with aphids they spread to my other plants. This despite thorough cleaning and rinsing. My fuchsias can have aphids some years too, but I cut them back to bare branches before they come in, and soap those well too, and there is not much for them to survive on so I've been mostly lucky there. Aphids along with scale insects are almost impossible to totally eliminate. You may not see any for a few weeks, but then suddenly there they are again. What is that white plant in the last picture? U know, I'm not 100% sure. I got them given to me by my aunt.....I'll have to identify them tomorrow
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Post by domination2580th on Sept 28, 2020 13:07:11 GMT -5
Sorry for late response. The white flower is dusty Miller silverdust
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Post by domination2580th on Nov 10, 2020 0:07:09 GMT -5
I currently have my plants of which I'm going to continue growing in the winter under the light. I would think they will be fine. Some aphids and white flies, but I sprayed the plants tonight and will continue doing per the instructions. What do you guys think?
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Post by paulf on Nov 10, 2020 9:20:48 GMT -5
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Post by domination2580th on Nov 10, 2020 12:21:23 GMT -5
What's a good humidity percentage?
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Post by bestofour on Nov 10, 2020 20:47:09 GMT -5
Is one of those a Christmas cactus?
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Post by paulf on Nov 10, 2020 23:19:24 GMT -5
What's a good humidity percentage? We like 55% The Christmas cactus is in the first photo, upper right.
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Post by bestofour on Nov 11, 2020 15:12:03 GMT -5
What's a good humidity percentage? We like 55% The Christmas cactus is in the first photo, upper right. I thought so. I used to have one and it was just beautiful. My niece wanted it so I gave it to her and it died.
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