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Post by spike on Jun 8, 2017 14:02:45 GMT -5
Ran out of last years fresh garlic, so very sad. Then today I was able to get a taste of what is to come! Got my Scapes!!!
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Post by daylilydude on Jun 11, 2017 8:09:47 GMT -5
Oooo.... sometimes I thinks the scrapes are better then the actual garlic...
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Post by september on Jun 14, 2017 22:38:35 GMT -5
Is there a best time or size to cut the scapes? I've grown onions and leeks many times, but this is my first time for garlic. Not sure when I should be cutting them off.
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Post by tomike on Jun 15, 2017 17:58:27 GMT -5
The scapes are just staring here and my garlic looks great this year.....
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Post by horsea on Jun 16, 2017 0:36:50 GMT -5
Just starting here, too. I don't cut all of mine off, do you? They make the garlic patch look rather pretty.
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Post by tomike on Jun 16, 2017 5:12:02 GMT -5
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Post by tomike on Jun 16, 2017 15:23:47 GMT -5
And, yes, I remove the scapes not only because they are edible but also because I believe that the scapes take away energy that otherwise could benefit the growing garlic bulbs in the ground.......
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Jun 17, 2017 8:47:13 GMT -5
Picked the scapes last evening. Going to have a good feast for the next few months.
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Post by ladymarmalade on Jun 17, 2017 10:07:34 GMT -5
Picked the scapes last evening. Going to have a good feast for the next few months. Do you have a recipe to share? My scapes are just starting, so I'm in a bit of a bind as I leave for a two-week trip Thursday morning. I'm going to snip what's out there on Wednesday, and I'll have to leave very careful instructions for my hubby.
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Post by paquebot on Jun 19, 2017 0:06:25 GMT -5
And, yes, I remove the scapes not only because they are edible but also because I believe that the scapes take away energy that otherwise could benefit the growing garlic bulbs in the ground....... But, has that ever been proved? Many who have done a side-by-side experiment have not come to a conclusive agreement one way or the other. Instead, some have found that the bulbs are already at maximum size when the scapes begin to form. Martin The truth is more important than the facts.
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Post by tomike on Jun 19, 2017 11:01:30 GMT -5
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Post by spike on Jun 20, 2017 9:49:36 GMT -5
Scapes have always been a special treat around here. My old uncle used to pickle them!! Pure heaven. No I don't have the recipe
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Post by horsea on Jun 21, 2017 12:43:26 GMT -5
And, yes, I remove the scapes not only because they are edible but also because I believe that the scapes take away energy that otherwise could benefit the growing garlic bulbs in the ground....... But, has that ever been proved? Many who have done a side-by-side experiment have not come to a conclusive agreement one way or the other. Instead, some have found that the bulbs are already at maximum size when the scapes begin to form. Martin I'm leaning toward leaving most of my scapes on this year. This is what decided me, from barbolian.com/yellow-tips-on-garlic/Here is the relevant portion of the article that got me to thinking: Meaning this: in my (humble) opinion, cutting the scape puts the plant into shock & emergency development mode. Bulbs grow quickly (where else will the energy go?), but flavor and storage capabilities are sacrificed. When the scapes are left on, the plant matures more slowly, but with a little patience, you will still get large bulbs (is this a size competition?). Bulbs that are allowed to mature at their own pace have more time to develop flavor and are (weather permitting) easier to cure.
But I'll cut a few to put into soup.
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Post by ladymarmalade on Jun 21, 2017 12:50:18 GMT -5
But, has that ever been proved? Many who have done a side-by-side experiment have not come to a conclusive agreement one way or the other. Instead, some have found that the bulbs are already at maximum size when the scapes begin to form. Martin I'm leaning toward leaving most of my scapes on this year. This is what decided me, from barbolian.com/yellow-tips-on-garlic/Here is the relevant portion of the article that got me to thinking: Meaning this: in my (humble) opinion, cutting the scape puts the plant into shock & emergency development mode. Bulbs grow quickly (where else will the energy go?), but flavor and storage capabilities are sacrificed. When the scapes are left on, the plant matures more slowly, but with a little patience, you will still get large bulbs (is this a size competition?). Bulbs that are allowed to mature at their own pace have more time to develop flavor and are (weather permitting) easier to cure.
But I'll cut a few to put into soup. I'll be a guinea pig. I have run out of time to get everything done in the garden that needed to get done, and DH is not up to the task of dealing with the scapes. So I'm leaving them in place! I hope I don't regret it!
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Post by tomike on Jun 21, 2017 15:58:46 GMT -5
LISTEN......
The debate is "OPEN" and it would be good if more people would express an opinion or provide proven scientific fact based on experimental data as to a YES or a NO or a MAYBE......
Keeping in mind that they are GOOD tasting.......
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Post by daylilydude on Jun 21, 2017 16:47:40 GMT -5
They do taste great when they are cooked on the grill with a 1/2 in steak cooked medium well...
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Post by paquebot on Jun 22, 2017 21:51:49 GMT -5
We did exactly such an experiment one time with about 100 varieties. For a study on bulbils, 3 or 4 plants of each variety were allowed to keep their scapes. There was no noticeable size difference. If there would be any advantage, one would have to nip the scape off as soon as it appears even if it's only a couple inches tall. In the end, the only real advantage is that if one removes the scapes before harvest, the bulbils don't become "marbles" on the drying room floor.
Martin
The truth is more important than the facts.
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Post by horsea on Jun 22, 2017 23:42:25 GMT -5
Last year, I removed about 2/3 of the scapes. I didn't notice any difference in size of bulbs. No, that's not "scientific". I just did it because "you're supposed to". But isn't removing garlic scapes the same as cutting off all those potato flowers? I mean, if it's a good thing for garlic, it should be good for the potatoes, too. Yet nobody does this, as far as I can see.
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Post by paquebot on Jun 23, 2017 13:33:17 GMT -5
Removing potato blossoms for increased production is another garden myth. The tubers are only just beginning to be formed when the plants blossom. Since only a tiny few produce seed, they do not take anything away from the tuber development.
Martin
The truth is more important than the facts.
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Post by tomike on Jul 2, 2017 14:25:12 GMT -5
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Post by daylilydude on Jul 2, 2017 16:08:10 GMT -5
Y'all are so lucky... I just didn't plant any this and last gardening season... shame on me...LOL!
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Post by ladymarmalade on Jul 15, 2017 9:48:05 GMT -5
So I didn't harvest the scapes, and now I've got a garlic bed full of bulbils? I don't know if I should trim them off now? Does anyone have any thoughts? The leaves have started turning brown towards the bottoms. I'm going to be watching it very closely. I'm hoping it will hold off wanting to be pulled until after our camping weekend. Last year I waited until afterwards, but I should have pulled them before- the bulbs were not as tight and didn't store as well. This year my timing *should* be perfect since we're camping a week early and I put the bulbs in later.
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Post by paquebot on Jul 15, 2017 13:41:42 GMT -5
You'll have a "bed full of bulbils" only if you left the umbels to mature and dry in the garden. Any that are left on the ground will become a volunteer plant for next year. Dug about 100 last night which had been allowed to grow where they weren't going to bother anything. The bulbs were salvaged and everything else run through a mulching/bagging mower for hot composting. The tumbler heat will kill the bulbils.
Martin
The truth is more important than the facts.
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Post by daylilydude on Jul 15, 2017 19:31:01 GMT -5
ladymarmalade, paquebot, if you were to cut those now and let them dry, could they be planted next round?
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Post by ladymarmalade on Jul 15, 2017 19:51:08 GMT -5
ladymarmalade, paquebot, if you were to cut those now and let them dry, could they be planted next round? According to this article I found, you don't even really need to plant the bulbils. She suggests to just break them open and toss them around- they'll plant themselves. I'm considering sowing a strip of them in my community garden. That article suggests it should produce something very similar to garlic chives- that would be fun to find in the spring!
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Post by paquebot on Jul 19, 2017 16:54:21 GMT -5
ladymarmalade, paquebot, if you were to cut those now and let them dry, could they be planted next round? Yes, they may be planted back. What you get the following year depends upon the type. If it's a porcelain, the bulbils usually aren't much bigger than a grain of rice. They will produce a pea-size round the first year, marble-size the second, and proper divided bulb the third. If it's a purple stripe, the bulbils are usually around the size of a BB. They will produce a marble-size or larger round the first year and a divided bulb the second. If it's a rocambole, the bulbils may range from size of a pea to a marble. They will almost always produce a normal bulb in one season. Martin The truth is more important than the facts.
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