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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 27, 2018 11:17:37 GMT -5
As best as I can tell these are both yellow pear tomatoes. If I'm wrong, we'll forgive me.
which one would you grow?
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Post by brownrexx on Jan 27, 2018 11:20:33 GMT -5
I have never heard of either one
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 27, 2018 12:03:44 GMT -5
I have never heard of either one I'm going through an envelope right now that most I've never heard of. So so hard to figure out what I want to plant. Oh how I wish I could plant every one of them.
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Post by mgulfcoastguy on Jan 27, 2018 12:26:33 GMT -5
I may have tried Sweet Beverly. I believe it was one of several that Blane gave me the year that I grew out Rebel Yell for him. It was so long ago that it’s fuzzy but I don’t remember it as a pear tomato.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 27, 2018 13:02:23 GMT -5
I may have tried Sweet Beverly. I believe it was one of several that Blane gave me the year that I grew out Rebel Yell for him. It was so long ago that it’s fuzzy but I don’t remember it as a pear tomato. Correct. My seeds came from Blane and Dean. I was thinking it was pear, but I bet I'm wrong. Also, my seeds for S Beverly may not be stable. It seems like me and Blane talked about it years ago. Lots of years have passed and I've forgotten more than I ever knew. I know I like Y Submarine.
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Post by paulf on Jan 27, 2018 16:39:29 GMT -5
Both are yellow pear cherry tomatoes and I which will I grow....neither. I remember the Sweet Beverly came from Dean named after his mother? and he was having a hard time stabilizing it, but that was years ago. Is it now stable? I am just not a cherry lover.
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Post by ladymarmalade on Jan 27, 2018 16:55:50 GMT -5
Yellow Submarine is slightly better than a yellow pear. I greatly dislike Yellow Pear because they are bland and often mealy in texture.
Sweet Beverly... considering the source of your seeds, I'm pretty sure they are not stable. They don't always produce pear shaped- some of them are more oval, some are elongated a bit. They taste better than Yellow Submarine though, so if you don't really care about the shape, that would be my choice.
If I had to grow one of these, I would choose Sweet Beverly. But I'd really opt for none of the above. There are much better yellow cherry type tomatoes out there.
ETA: Reading my post I wanted to make sure that I wasn't criticizing the breeders in a bad way for Sweet Beverly not being stable. Simply agreeing with others that if the seeds are a few years old, there were troubles getting that variety completely stable, and if you have old seed from them, it may give you some surprises. I'm honestly not sure where Sweet Beverly is at this point in the stabilization process. So many projects, so little time!
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 27, 2018 17:01:17 GMT -5
I don't know. I know my seeds are probably not because they are from 2011ish somewheres around that time period. I plan to grow it and just see what it does. I like observing stuff like that. I also have Darth Mater F6 (not a Cherry by the way) and I still grow Purple Haze which I have in F3, F4, F5, and F6. I'm not a breeder and I don't pretend to be one, I just love growing and see what it makes. I save seeds on what looks pretty and does well here. I'm not looking for what ripens first or any other trait. I simply save the seeds from the ones that do well and look good. UNLESS....Say for instance I'm looking for a Cherry type, then I'd save according to both looks and taste. Cause I like Cherry tomatoes. Nothing fancy about what I do. Most people wouldn't find a Rhyme or Reason for why I saved it other than it performed good in my garden.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 27, 2018 17:06:23 GMT -5
Yellow Submarine is slightly better than a yellow pear. I greatly dislike Yellow Pear because they are bland and often mealy in texture. Sweet Beverly... considering the source of your seeds, I'm pretty sure they are not stable. They don't always produce pear shaped- some of them are more oval, some are elongated a bit. They taste better than Yellow Submarine though, so if you don't really care about the shape, that would be my choice. If I had to grow one of these, I would choose Sweet Beverly. But I'd really opt for none of the above. There are much better yellow cherry type tomatoes out there. ETA: Reading my post I wanted to make sure that I wasn't criticizing the breeders in a bad way for Sweet Beverly not being stable. Simply agreeing with others that if the seeds are a few years old, there were troubles getting that variety completely stable, and if you have old seed from them, it may give you some surprises. I'm honestly not sure where Sweet Beverly is at this point in the stabilization process. So many projects, so little time! I understand exactly what you mean. I grow things because I want to observe. I don't go into seed trades with any expectations. I'm always happy with what anyone is willing to share. With me, it's never a waste of time as I just like to grow stuff.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 27, 2018 17:27:43 GMT -5
I wanted to expand on what I grow and why. I love a good story. Sometimes I will grow something based on the story alone or more IMPORTANTLY how close the variety is from being extinct. Take Ralph's Italian Heirloom bean. The story about the barber growing his bean and giving it out to customers always made me smile. I really didn't give a hoot how it tasted. I just don't want it to become extinct.
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Post by ladymarmalade on Jan 27, 2018 18:11:30 GMT -5
If your seeds for Sweet Beverley are from 2011, you can be in for all sorts of surprises. At that time, Sweet Beverley was pushing out regular cherry tomato trusses as well as multi-flora trusses. Most of the plants produced a yellow tomato that was almost orange when it was ripe, some of the plants came up completely red. Usually the red one were also multi-flora. The shapes of the tomatoes ranged from plums to pears to little footballs- often times multiple shapes on one plant.
Sweet Sharon is Sweet Beverley's sister, which comes out as a multi-flora white tomato. It has clear skin and yellow flesh, making it a light butter color. Football shaped, oh so sweet and delicious. There is a chance 2011 seed for Sweet Beverley could have Sweet Sharon somewhere in there as well.
By 2015, Blane had successfully captured the multi-flora yellow that IS Sweet Beverley, so seed from him and associates 2015 and later should grow true.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 27, 2018 18:21:20 GMT -5
If your seeds for Sweet Beverley are from 2011, you can be in for all sorts of surprises. At that time, Sweet Beverley was pushing out regular cherry tomato trusses as well as multi-flora trusses. Most of the plants produced a yellow tomato that was almost orange when it was ripe, some of the plants came up completely red. Usually the red one were also multi-flora. The shapes of the tomatoes ranged from plums to pears to little footballs- often times multiple shapes on one plant. Sweet Sharon is Sweet Beverley's sister, which comes out as a multi-flora white tomato. It has clear skin and yellow flesh, making it a light butter color. Football shaped, oh so sweet and delicious. There is a chance 2011 seed for Sweet Beverley could have Sweet Sharon somewhere in there as well. By 2015, Blane had successfully captured the multi-flora yellow that IS Sweet Beverley, so seed from him and associates 2015 and later should grow true. ladymarmalade, Thank you so much for the info. In cases like this, I like to grow at least 6 plants just to observe what I get.
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Post by ladymarmalade on Jan 27, 2018 19:08:09 GMT -5
I will look forward to seeing what you end up with in your garden! It's always fun to play with an unstable variety. Save seeds from your favorites!
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