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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Aug 18, 2019 15:36:11 GMT -5
Over the years, I've read reviews, Forums, Etc and just had to try the next big thing. Some flat out sucked! Now I admit, it could have been my climate, my growing methods, etc
Here are my biggest disappointments.
Sweet Beverly Yellow Submarine Nebraska Wedding Kellogg's Breakfast Dep's Pink Firefly Black Plum
I can't think of the others, maybe someone will jog my memory
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Post by paquebot on Aug 18, 2019 15:55:42 GMT -5
One that immediately comes to mind is Brown Cherry. Brown by color and brown by taste. You will find no proof that I ever grew it as I did not save a single seed.
Martin
The truth is more important than the facts.
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Post by paulf on Aug 18, 2019 16:12:48 GMT -5
That is a question that will need some thought. This year it is Dragon's Eye. A few years ago growing out a few plants for a friend who swears by Celebrity I swore at it. AAck! In the distant past I vowed never to grow a bigger, better, early Boy, or Girl; once you go OP you never go back and I have not. There have been some OPs that were spitters. Research time. Stay tuned.
Moose, it is something that in your spitter list is one of our all time favorites: Kellogg's Breakfast and its cousin Kellogg's Potato Leaf (KBX). I agree with Depp's and Nebraska Wedding. I guess I need to try Yellow Submarine...the tomato because I love the song.
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Post by ladymarmalade on Aug 18, 2019 16:41:29 GMT -5
The only actual spitter I've ever grown was Purple Calabash.
I've had plenty I didn't care for, but I always figure that climate plays a huge part in taste. Something I grow here does not taste the same as something grown in southern Mississippi.
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Post by paulf on Aug 18, 2019 16:55:41 GMT -5
The only actual spitter I've ever grown was Purple Calabash. I forgot Purple Calabash. The five years there was a Mid-West Tomato Tasting, PC was voted worst tomato every year. Pie Girl, who was one of the founders, tried every year to get someone to like that variety and every year it was the worst of the worst. A true spitter if there ever was one. If Denise were still with us I swear she would still grow it.
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Post by Gianna on Aug 18, 2019 17:24:40 GMT -5
Almost every heirloom (about a dozen?) I've ever grown has been a disappointment, either weak plants, prone to disease, poor production and/or flat taste. Yet growing them sounded like such a good idea. Apparently they did not earn their heirloom status in coastal southern California.
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Post by brownrexx on Aug 18, 2019 17:55:24 GMT -5
I grew pink oxheart this year and I probably won't grow it again. The taste was not terrible but the plants did not produce very much and what they did produce was small and rotted quickly.
I was not impressed with Mortgage Lifter last year either. Did not grow it again.
I think that growing conditions make a huge difference. I always grow Brandywine which is an heirloom from my area and it is always terrific but some have complained that it was not worth the room it took up.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Aug 18, 2019 18:59:53 GMT -5
The only actual spitter I've ever grown was Purple Calabash. I forgot Purple Calabash. The five years there was a Mid-West Tomato Tasting, PC was voted worst tomato every year. Pie Girl, who was one of the founders, tried every year to get someone to like that variety and every year it was the worst of the worst. A true spitter if there ever was one. If Denise were still with us I swear she would still grow it. Add that to the list. I remember it too.
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Post by carolyn on Aug 18, 2019 19:44:32 GMT -5
I grew pink oxheart this year and I probably won't grow it again. The taste was not terrible but the plants did not produce very much and what they did produce was small and rotted quickly. .... ....
brownrexx, I grew coeur de bue tomatoes for a customer this year and they turned out to be very nice plants. looked better than some of my other plants when septoria blew through. not a speck on them when I planted the left overs. nice huge pink ox hearts now.
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Post by pepperhead212 on Aug 18, 2019 20:48:19 GMT -5
Almost every heirloom (about a dozen?) I've ever grown has been a disappointment, either weak plants, prone to disease, poor production and/or flat taste. Yet growing them sounded like such a good idea. Apparently they did not earn their heirloom status in coastal southern California. Same here in Southern Jersey. And countless low flavored heirlooms I tried only once. There are so many bad experiences I have had that I won't try to remember them all! Some listed here were also in my "never again" list. Purple Calabash was one of my spitters, and countless purple/black varieties split mercilessly, and I hardly got a single useable tomato from. Kellogg's Breakfast was a disappointment because almost every tomato, when a hint of ripeness would appear, would have a hole in the side from some insect, while almost no others in the garden attracted these; same for diseases, though last year was second wettest on record, and eventually, this happened to many. Yet, in other years, KBX did fine for me! A tomato many years ago - Salsa - got BER on every single fruit, until I finally pulled them, and planted beans in their place. Yet, no other tomatoes got BER. And one cherry - Isis Candy - I grew many years ago, then again, when I got some seeds (not asked for!) in a trade, so I thought maybe I got a bad one before, and I tried it again. Same thing happened! It seemed about one in 8 was a spitter, and I think it is because I could not tell when they were ripe! Some, looked ripe, but were hard, while others, looking like they hadn't started, were totally ripe, and when left to ripen, they were beyond ripe!
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Post by ladymarmalade on Aug 18, 2019 20:53:36 GMT -5
Oooh, yes, pepperhead212, while I wouldn't call it a spitter, Isis Candy was close for me as well. It definitely wasn't tasty, and I grow so many delicious varieties of cherry tomato that I thought it not worth trying again.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Aug 18, 2019 22:25:47 GMT -5
Oooh, yes, pepperhead212 , while I wouldn't call it a spitter, Isis Candy was close for me as well. It definitely wasn't tasty, and I grow so many delicious varieties of cherry tomato that I thought it not worth trying again. Yes! I remember growing that disappointment as well. Shucks, that's two I forgot. I bet there's more too!!!
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Post by octave1 on Aug 18, 2019 23:30:38 GMT -5
Orange Wellington is possibly the worst this year, kind of bland and insignificant, but the plant is outstanding. Too bad I can't eat those leaves.
In the past I found that Roma was consistently bad. Always mealy, tasteless and thick skinned, even if grown from seeds of different origin. And another one that was almost a spitter is Yellow Pear. I grew it two times to make sure, and both times it was a real disappointment.
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Post by paquebot on Aug 18, 2019 23:57:59 GMT -5
And another one that was almost a spitter is Yellow Pear. I grew it two times to make sure, and both times it was a real disappointment. Never had a bad Yellow Pear and grew it a number of times. Its red cousin, Red Pear, probably deserves to be included in the spitter class. Supposed to be one of the oldest varieties but must not have had much competition in Jefferson's time. Martin The truth is more important than the facts.
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Post by coppice on Aug 19, 2019 5:31:59 GMT -5
The low acid (pink, yellow, white, green) have all been dissapointments for me. Not spitters just meh.
I will poke Martins' red pear into my pie-hole till my mouth bleeds...
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Post by brownrexx on Aug 19, 2019 5:38:12 GMT -5
In the past I found that Roma was consistently bad. Always mealy, tasteless and thick skinned, even if grown from seeds of different origin. Same here and it always gets bad BER too.
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Post by carolyn on Aug 19, 2019 7:24:37 GMT -5
In the past I found that Roma was consistently bad. Always mealy, tasteless and thick skinned, even if grown from seeds of different origin. Same here and it always gets bad BER too. try Giant Garden Paste. its awesome.
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Post by paulf on Aug 19, 2019 8:49:35 GMT -5
We went back over the last twenty years and decided some have been less tasty than others but for the most part what we have grown have been edible other than Dragon's Eye and Purple Calabash.
One more came to mind. In 2002 Craig LeHoullier sent me some seeds to try out. It was called Orange-Yellow Globe. It grew very well, the fruit was beautiful but tasted like kerosene. Purple Calabash was bad but this one was worse.
Even the store bought round, red hybrids that are like eating a cardboard photo of a tomato from November to March are pretty good from April until June when there are no other tomatoes. So even boringly bad tomatoes are OK sometimes.
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Post by bestofour on Aug 19, 2019 21:10:49 GMT -5
I think it is Abraham Lincoln that didn't do well for me - yuck. I tried 2 years in a room thinking it was something I had done but it's not worth trying that again.
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Post by guruofgardens on Aug 19, 2019 21:34:55 GMT -5
Any of the blue tomatoes taste like crap.
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Post by paquebot on Aug 21, 2019 11:56:23 GMT -5
Found two today which most here would say suck. They are Salt Spring Sunrise and Silbert's Annchen. Both have barely average taste but their size is 1½" to 2". Thus they would be ideal for canning whole. Add a little salt and they would be perfect. That is also often the case with varieties developed for commercial field growing. They are for a specific use which may not be what we'd like sliced on our plate. No other "dogs" from this year's selections.
Martin
The truth is more important than the facts.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Aug 21, 2019 13:41:01 GMT -5
Any of the blue tomatoes taste like crap. You ain't never lied. I got sent a bunch of those new blue concoctions and nar one of them was worth a pinch of $##t
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Post by paquebot on Aug 21, 2019 18:14:30 GMT -5
Problem with a lot of blue tomatoes is that it's hard to tell when they are fully ripe. The original P20 was not known for good taste but Tom Wagner has created a number of good cherry types. OSU's Indigo Rose also isn't too bad. No blue ones in the garden this year but some in reserve for the future.
Martin
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Post by cluckamok on Jun 30, 2020 18:54:17 GMT -5
Moose, it is something that in your spitter list is one of our all time favorites: Kellogg's Breakfast and its cousin Kellogg's Potato Leaf (KBX). I agree with Depp's and Nebraska Wedding. I guess I need to try Yellow Submarine...the tomato because I love the song. Kellogg's Breakfast is one of my all-time favorites, too. This year we're growing KBX. Can't wait!
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Jul 1, 2020 12:08:22 GMT -5
I have a new one to add: Peachy Keen. Lots of people love it, but for me and my DH, it's a spitter - it has a strong off taste. The woman who developed it (a friend of mine) speculated that I might be sensitive to its high beta-carotene content. Maybe so, but I like carrots, orange peppers, and pumpkins fine. Figures that I would end up hating one of my most productive tomatoes, doesn't it?
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Post by pepperhead212 on Jul 1, 2020 12:35:21 GMT -5
Laura_in_FL I have one of those Peechy Keens growing, that you gave me, and it hasn't ripened yet, but it is loaded! I'll find out if it tastes good or bad to me. Did you try drying them? Sometimes things taste totally different, and it might be a way to salvage them.
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Jul 6, 2020 9:56:05 GMT -5
No...I couldn't imagine concentrating that flavor. Ick! I cut the plant down weeks ago.
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Post by paulf on Jul 6, 2020 14:02:06 GMT -5
I thought I posted about the blue tomatoes, but here goes: having grown several of the blues, not one was anything more than below average for taste. Every one looked great, produced well but never got a second chance. Pretty doesn't get it in my tomato garden...taste good or you are outta there.
Otherwise, any tomato that isn't what it is supposed to be sucks. My Zeke Dishman (NOT) gave a ripe salad sized that was fairly good but still it sucks that a huge, tasty beefsteak pooped out a small, average tomato.
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Post by pepperhead212 on Jul 6, 2020 16:05:42 GMT -5
No...I couldn't imagine concentrating that flavor. Ick! I cut the plant down weeks ago. I hope it's a genetic thing, like cilantro, because I have a LOT of them out there! And I just saw one starting to ripen.
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Post by mgulfcoastguy on Jul 6, 2020 16:12:34 GMT -5
What about the rest of the family? Do they hate it?
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