elkhound
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Post by elkhound on Sept 18, 2020 6:32:56 GMT -5
just a little field report from something new i decided to grow this year. in late spring i had room so i ordered a pound of dutch red shallots...shallots propagated from bulbs not seed. i say their red potato onions..but thats another conversation i think...lol got them out a bit late and it got super hot here real fast. but i am pleased in my harvest. i planted 1 pound which was 40 pieces and after pulling and drying i decided to weigh them out...harvest was over 15 pounds.FYI...i bought these with my own money and in no way affiliated with these folks. but i think they have good items for sale so far from my experience with them. one of the only places sells martin heirloom garlic too.
drying on table half bushel basket
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Post by elkhound on Sept 18, 2020 6:39:17 GMT -5
how i grew them. put in a grid and kept green grass mulch on them. i dont know why but if i use green grass on onions they seem to do much better vs. other mulches.i am going to try these with dewitt sunbelt weed barrier next year and see how they do.
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Post by brownrexx on Sept 18, 2020 6:59:15 GMT -5
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Post by dirtguy50 on Sept 18, 2020 8:52:22 GMT -5
looks like a very nice harvest. Where are you located elkhound? Putting that in your profile would be helpful.
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Post by paquebot on Sept 18, 2020 9:05:21 GMT -5
15:1 return is great for those. I first had them almost 20 years ago and maybe averaged 7 or 8 bulbs per plant. Really liked them but many instructions called for fall planting of shallots. Only worked with heavy mulching here and I eventually lost them. Now just have yellow and plant in spring.
Martin
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Post by ponyexpress on Sept 18, 2020 13:47:28 GMT -5
I have some red shallots as well as potato onions. I have done planting of both in the fall and spring. After harvesting this year's shallots/potato onions, I've noticed that fall planted bulbs were smaller and most of them sent up seed stalks. My spring planted ones were bigger and did not send up seed stalks.
So for next year, I will do spring planting only.
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Post by pepperhead212 on Sept 18, 2020 15:14:26 GMT -5
I had betterluck with fall planting of the red shallots, and never had seed stalks on the ones I grew. And they were always ready before the garlic was ready to harvest - around middle of June. They seem to store longer than most of the garlic varieties, so this year I will be planting more of those.
I tried some shallots from seeds one season - started indoors them in February, transplanted in April, and in September only got single, somewhat decent sized heads, but not as good as the ones started in fall.
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Post by ladymarmalade on Sept 18, 2020 19:03:01 GMT -5
elkhound, thank you for sharing that link!!
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Sept 19, 2020 13:27:03 GMT -5
Lovely shallots!
I am jealous - I have yet to find any shallots that do well with the short day length at this latitude (30 degrees). I can grow them all winter and get lots of lovely greens, but they won't bulb for me at all.
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Post by paquebot on Sept 27, 2020 10:22:21 GMT -5
A growing tip for planting is the opposite of what one would think. If you want big bulbs, plant the smallest ones back. If you want a lot of small bulbs to plant the following year, plant the largest. Small ones make less divisions and thus bigger bulbs. Big ones make a lot of divisions and the resulting bulbs are small.
Martin
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Post by pepperhead212 on Sept 27, 2020 10:44:04 GMT -5
paquebot, I found this out, by trial and error! Planting all of the largest, then the last area left I planted some small ones, just to fill in the area, and those small ones just made large bulbs, with maybe one split, while the large ones had 6 or 8 bulbs the next early summer.
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elkhound
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Post by elkhound on Oct 4, 2020 7:48:17 GMT -5
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Post by elkhound on Oct 4, 2020 7:54:17 GMT -5
one strange thing is people talk about these reds being sweet. mine are hot. when i first pulled them they had a real bite to them after sitting a bit they are less but still not what i call sweet. much more bite to them. dont get me wrong i like strong and hot stuff and often its hard for me to compare hot and mild etc. for others since i have a bit more tolerance to heat.i am not one that likes stuff so hot your hair sets aflame. but jalapenos i can eat by the hand full i think their flavor is awesome. but anyway the lady at fruition seeds has a short clips showing the reds.
i tell ya making garlic noodles with martins garlic and a couple of these red dutches with good olive oil and real butter sauteed and poured over noodles is out of this world.
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elkhound
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Post by elkhound on Oct 4, 2020 8:02:26 GMT -5
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Post by elkhound on Oct 4, 2020 8:08:04 GMT -5
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Post by paquebot on Oct 4, 2020 10:29:55 GMT -5
I would not call shallots sweet. In fact, I call them onions with an attitude. They also retain much of their taste when cooked. Also would wonder how to get a 4" bulb. I got some close to 2" this year from the golden ones and that was in soil loaded with pigeon manure. Same ground re-loaded now and scheduled for the reds next year.
Martin
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Oct 4, 2020 13:09:51 GMT -5
"Onions with an attitude" is a great description. One little bulb (usually the ones I buy around here are 2" or less) is enough to had BIG flavor to a dish.
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Post by ponyexpress on Oct 4, 2020 17:45:22 GMT -5
Fruition Seeds! A friend just started working there in the spring. He really likes it compared to the farm he was at before. I like Petra's videos that she produces on different gardening topics. Have not ordered anything from there yet but plan to do so over the winter.
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