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Post by txdirtdog on Jun 28, 2011 22:20:43 GMT -5
Well, my mind is wandering towards next spring's garden. Don't get me wrong, I'm still dropping seeds and doing things for the fall garden. Lots of things. But the mind still wanders to the future. I'm thinking (and after discussing it with folks this is reinforced) that next spring I'm primarily going to go with smaller mixtas and moschatas that get up quick, produce fruit fast. This spring for me, that was Fortna White (very impressed), Green Striped Cushaw (there was no doubt), a volunteer butternut that was probably a Waltham (always dependable) and a volunteer pumpkin that was probably a Sugar Pumpkin (small and quick - first one last year and this year). None of these are large. Maybe 2-5 lbs range so far. But I have puree in the freezer from these. No other winter squash I have planted have given me any puree yet. I have a Penn Dutch on the vine - 1 and it's not that large. Hubbards and Kuris Haven't produced and the length of time to production just make them too vulnerable to bug attacks. I do have a small Big Max that I'll get puree from and another one on the vine if nothing bad happens, but they had a lot of real estate for little return so far. Next year is definitely Fortna White, Green Striped Cushaw, Waltham Butternut, Sugar Pumpkin, and Spaghetti (Sugar Pumpkin and Spaghetti get fruit fast enough to maturity that despite continuing SVB attacks, I get a return on them and I like the taste.) Can anyone recommend winter squashes (especially mixtas and moschatas) that just outran all others in your garden to ripeness and that you liked the flavor? With our season, I can grow quick ones, harvest, and replant from the saved seeds at least one more time, and if it is really quick I could probably get 3 generations in. Oh, and I don't like the taste of acorn types. <shudder> ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/3247375/images/AgR8NN4iidU1wy_OcyQm.png)
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Jun 28, 2011 23:23:20 GMT -5
How did your Butternut Violinas do? Can't say that they are the quickest but they are the best tasting that I've run into. I'm going to see how Illinois does before I decide to go back to Fortna. Fortna is a spectacular keeper, I've still got one left from last year. I'm becoming partial to neck type squash because they are easier to process. I did order a secret squash for next year. Sssshh! Red might be listening. Waltham have not allways been the most reliable or the best tasting for me. A good squash if you are willing to go hybrid is Tetsukobo(sic?) from Pinetree Seeds, either the best or the second best tasting of all the many I've planted. It is a maxima/moschata cross so I don't know about SVBs. Didn't have any trouble that year anyway. Good production and I think pretty quick and about the save size as a buttercup.
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Jun 28, 2011 23:29:21 GMT -5
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Jun 28, 2011 23:31:22 GMT -5
Here I found it for you. www.superseeds.com/details.php?id=W492Well it is in the around the world asian section since the link thing isn't working Edited by txdirtdog to add: The link should work now. Just needed to remove the "http://" from the link.
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Post by txdirtdog on Jun 29, 2011 0:23:35 GMT -5
I didn't grow Butternut Violina. It is on my list to grow in the future. I went with the Penn Dutch Crookneck for a larger butternut type for this year. At this point I still have healthy vines going and put in some more seeds a short while back, but I only have the one fruit on the vine, and it looks like the skin is turning when it is only in the (estimated) 3-4 pound range. I like the neck squash also because of the ease of processing. Last year I grew the hybrid Argonaut for the size. I did get a couple (just a couple) of 10 pounders which were great for processing, but it did not matter that it had a solid vine - the SVBs did a number on them also. Most expensive seeds I ever bought. Won't do that again. Lol. I've never run into a butternut that I didn't like the flavor. Thanks for posting about Pinetree. I have heard their name before, but don't remember going to their website before. The Tetsukabuko looks interesting. Needs a pollinator. I wonder if the proginy seeds would be viable and what that would be the result? Mind going into mad scientist mode - emphasis on mad. I may well have to try that one. Truth be told, I'm too weak not to try a bigger neck squash next year as well, but instead of being a large part of the planting, it'll be a smaller grouping with emphasis given to the fast in and out varieties. I'll probably also still try to grow a true pumpkin (a very small planting for halloween). I had good result a couple of years ago with Triple Treat. I may go back to it for that purpose, but I think I'm done with Big Max, Atlantic Giant, that sort of pumpkins. Ooooohhhh, cloak and dagger. Heh-heh. Wonder if it's another Asian type? Hmmmm? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Jun 29, 2011 6:08:11 GMT -5
Requires a Pollinator? That might be a problem for some folks, but I don't think it will be for TX or Gulfie or the Red people, lol
Reminds me of Black Futsu with extra planting instructions.
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Post by redneckplanter on Jun 29, 2011 12:01:45 GMT -5
nice thread. wait and see on the ficifolia.no in and out but a true warrior roach vine i'm reading.may take multiple hits? possibly buttercups?or too close to acorn taste? white cushaw?smiles those indian moschatas are in and out.true warriors.
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Post by redneckplanter on Jun 29, 2011 12:22:54 GMT -5
just attempted a indian mosch to a burgess buttercup.rotfl
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Post by txdirtdog on Jun 29, 2011 16:58:21 GMT -5
Lol. I think we can handle the donor plants Blue. What kind of special instructions do a Black Futsu (geshundteit ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/3247375/images/AgR8NN4iidU1wy_OcyQm.png) ) require?
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Post by txdirtdog on Jun 29, 2011 17:05:35 GMT -5
Good luck on the cross Red! We need more of that type of stuff to my way of thinking. Hope it is fruitful and proves to have the good traits. Thought you'd like this thread. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/3247375/images/AgR8NN4iidU1wy_OcyQm.png) I'm hoping the ficifolia will prove to be impervious. I just won't hold my breath around these parts. I've got the standard Green Striped myself. I suspect any Cushaw would fit the bill. I'll probaly take a shot at the Indian Moschata too. Sound like they are just what we need. Believe it or not, I've never grown or tasted a buttercup type. Not even from the grocery store. So I don't know how it would compare.
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Jun 29, 2011 17:09:09 GMT -5
Planting one hill of butternuts with Tetsukabuko works fine. Of course that was the year I planted 9 varieties. Hmmm? It was Sugar Loaf-okay, Tetsukabuko-fine, Jade hybrid-maxima loser, Lakota-croaked, Waltham-okay, Seminoles-okay but small...forget the rest. Oh! spaghetti squash-mixed Mom loved it, I didn't.
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Post by redneckplanter on Jun 30, 2011 9:46:19 GMT -5
seminole finally on the vine here.
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Post by daylilydude on Oct 20, 2011 6:32:00 GMT -5
I'm gonna try my hands at growing "Sweet Dumpling" next year, are there any other small fruited winter squash that you would recommend that has small fruit (only 2 of us eat them) and would be great in raised beds?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2011 16:34:15 GMT -5
I'm going to try "Sweet Dumpling" also this coming season. Can't grow sweet potatoes where I live so hoping these will do the trick of being sweet. Planted Spaghitti Squash last summer-they were good but I got tired of them-they also seemed like to much work to clean and cook- but their seeds were amazing when roasted--better than the roasted pumpkin seeds.
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Post by littleminnie on Dec 26, 2011 21:53:27 GMT -5
I don't think of moschatas or mixtas as fast. To me only pepos are fast. Thelma Sanders is amazing as well as Sweet Dumpling. All the others I wait for... ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/3247375/images/gxwVBCPs6zrGljkbkcV2.png)
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Post by peppero on May 22, 2012 6:13:48 GMT -5
) seminole finally on the vine here. . i started some seminole seeds for the first time and saw where you started some last year. how did they turn out as regards productivity and taste? jon ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/3247375/images/AgR8NN4iidU1wy_OcyQm.png)
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