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Post by daylilydude on Dec 20, 2010 20:33:49 GMT -5
I'm gonna grow winter squash again and I was wondering if there are any besides the acorn squash that can be grown in raised beds and what is the shelf life on them?
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Post by coppice on Dec 20, 2010 21:58:38 GMT -5
I rotate between Butternut and baby blue hubbard, both area resonably dry when baked. Both are utilitarian enough to go well as savory or sweet. Not very "heirloom", I know. OP cultivars are still routinely offerd for sale or barter.
Each will keep till late March, and don't runner too much. Both make for instance about two pies per squash. Plant between corn or on one end of a bed, & let run on the lawn.
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Post by w8in4dave on Dec 20, 2010 22:16:03 GMT -5
Totally serious here... what is the diffrence between summer squash and winter squash?? Just askin because I really don't know the diffrence ...
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Post by daylilydude on Dec 21, 2010 0:36:21 GMT -5
Well to me, most winter squash has a sweeter flavor than summer squash does, and winter squash makes a great pie similar to pumpkin if its fixed right and it sure has a longer shelf life IMO.
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Post by coppice on Dec 21, 2010 4:23:37 GMT -5
Summer squash have (mostly) softer hides and are a bit more tender. Oh crooknecks and zuccini come to mind. More the base(s) of ratatoille, than a storage squash which will have a tougher rind and drier flesh.
Winter or hard squash are more the source for a pie or soup. Often orange-er too.
Gourds or luffa are a whole 'nother family.
Cucumber and mellons are most often eaten raw.
Without dragging out Sue Ashford's 'Seed to Seed', there are five families that make up the whole clan. Who can cross-pollinate whom, I need Sue's book to sort out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2010 8:13:32 GMT -5
I like butternuts, acorns and buttercups. I am not crazy about the look of spaghetti squash. This year I had the MArina di Chioggia and Jahradale. I haven't used either yet. But they looked cool. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/3247375/images/AgR8NN4iidU1wy_OcyQm.png) And I grew the Long Pie. A zucchini shaped one. They are only supposed to be 8 lbs. Mine had to be 15 or more. lol
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Post by daylilydude on Dec 21, 2010 8:15:28 GMT -5
OOOO...... Any pics of the Marina di Chioggia and Jahradale?
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Dec 21, 2010 9:24:41 GMT -5
Without dragging out Sue Ashford's 'Seed to Seed', I feel compelled to make a correction so Newbies who might want to source this book have the proper information. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/3247375/images/AgR8NN4iidU1wy_OcyQm.png) Amazon.com lists it as Seed to Seed: Seed Saving and Growing Techniques for Vegetable Gardeners (9781882424580): Suzanne Ashworth,
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Post by coppice on Dec 21, 2010 16:32:58 GMT -5
I feel compelled to make a correction so Newbies who might want to source this book have the proper information. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/3247375/images/AgR8NN4iidU1wy_OcyQm.png) Amazon.com lists it as Seed to Seed: Seed Saving and Growing Techniques for Vegetable Gardeners (9781882424580): Suzanne Ashworth, Blue is right, my bad.
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Post by rintintin on Dec 22, 2010 21:14:52 GMT -5
A very informative book for both nOObs and experienced growers/savers. For most veggies it also shows regional tips as well as varietal choices. Handy reference.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2010 21:01:26 GMT -5
There is a "homesteading" type website where they put up plastic fencing along the sides of the raised beds to hold in the butternut vines. I'm going to grow them up a trellis next year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2010 7:40:36 GMT -5
Jahradale (Blues) w/ Marina di Chioggia in front ![](http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f46/flowerpower313/Squash/Jahr.jpg)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2010 7:53:27 GMT -5
Marina di Chioggia -off type. I got the seed from Baker Creek. Their FB page and catalog show this same shape and size. The normal shaped ones were not as warty as they should be and the warty ones were not the right shape. The different shapes appeared on different vines. ![](http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f46/flowerpower313/Squash/CopyofQUEENBLUE01.jpg)
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Dec 26, 2010 9:16:46 GMT -5
I should mention that the Red Kuri are the only ones in these pics that are small enough to be trellised in a small garden. I used to grow them up an old TV tower. The other varieties (QB, JPB, Thelma Sanders, Cushaw) are all vigorous runners and require lots of space in a garden. The Thelmas are small enough fruit that they too might climb up a strong trellis or tower but I've never tried that with them. Queensland Blue ![](http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4/bluelacedredhead/BluelacedredheadsVeggies/CameraDownloads2008002.jpg) Jumbo Pink Banana Squash ![](http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4/bluelacedredhead/BluelacedredheadsVeggies/CameraDownloads2008008.jpg) Thelma Sanders Sweet Potato Squash ![](http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4/bluelacedredhead/CameraDownloads419.jpg) Red Kuri ![](http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4/bluelacedredhead/CameraDownloads416.jpg) GreenStriped Cushaw, Rouge vif d'etampes, Red Kuri ![](http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4/bluelacedredhead/CameraDownloads408.jpg)
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Post by coppice on Dec 26, 2010 12:32:38 GMT -5
Lovely Blue!
A possible footnote to people who have limited space to develop garden beds. I had a yard that has most of the back yard which had all the top soil hauled away. I made some 'hills' for running squash and tossed around a lot of mulch on the bald and lifeless sand--not even a weed grew on most of it. After a summer of shade from those squash and the leaf mulch I tossed around the next summer there was a lawn!
It needed a second summer of mowing to resemble a lawn, but it was green where there was nothing before.
That was the only year I grew Atlantic Giant...
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Dec 26, 2010 16:44:12 GMT -5
Thanks Coppice! That was our last year on the farm (2008). In this house, I have yet to grow any squash larger than a golfball. And the ones that do, are quickly snatched by that Urban blight, the Gray (or Black) Squirrel. Hoping that 2011 will be the year that brings changes to my garden here after 2 years of doing much of the same that you went through to make healthy soil from nothing. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/3247375/images/AgR8NN4iidU1wy_OcyQm.png)
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2011 15:49:33 GMT -5
How did you get the squash off the heights of the TV tower? I have a TV tower and thought your idea would be a good one for small squash but don't want to climb up the tower to get them down.
Great looking squash, btw!
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Post by littleminnie on May 28, 2011 19:10:49 GMT -5
those red krui are very cute. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/3247375/images/AgR8NN4iidU1wy_OcyQm.png)
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 0:36:25 GMT -5
I bought a lot of medium size field pumpkins on sale after Halloween. There were $1 apiece. I didn't have a good place to store them. Most of my window sills are pretty wide. I lined the pumpkins up along north facing window sills (they weren't in direct sunlight except for a couple of hours per day). I cannot keep live plants on my windows sills during winter because they will freeze to death. That was not a problem for the pumpkins. The pumpkins stored on the windows sills kept well for four months. The couple of pumpkins I did not store on window sills went moldy.
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Post by klorentz on May 29, 2011 11:12:59 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 14:51:11 GMT -5
I LUVVV SQUASH AND ZUCHINI . SUE
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 17:32:42 GMT -5
Hey! I have an old TV tower too! Interesting idea! SO, how did you get them down? Love that warty squash, Flowerpower! Here are the winter squash I grew last year: ![](http://www.providenceacresfarm.com/images/squash2010.jpg) They are: spaghetti, upper ground sweet potato squash, ambercup, Hopi black, Hopi pale gray, sweet mama, turk's cap, and some hubbard/ambercup crosses.
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Post by sorellina on Jun 7, 2011 18:53:45 GMT -5
Wow, Sheryl, you must have a lot of space!
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Post by daylilydude on Jun 7, 2011 19:21:21 GMT -5
And a lot of yummy recipes too...
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