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Post by coppice on Dec 13, 2011 8:45:21 GMT -5
Apios americana
Ground nut is described as a significant source of a protein rich tubers. With a substantial east-of-Mississippi home range.
I'm hoping growers will describe their trials, and computer literati will pepper this thread with links. I will try to use this thread to drag Robin Marble here (she's one of my seed fairies).
Thank you all for your help.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2011 7:23:45 GMT -5
my ancestors developed ground nut as a crop along with sunroot and kidney beans. i have alot of interest in ground nut and would participate in any efforts being made here.
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Post by coppice on Dec 16, 2011 11:43:45 GMT -5
Apios americana, will probably never supplant some of its more domesticated cousins. But is one of the plants I'd like very much to get a better understanding of for potential distribution to Robin Marbles need4seed yahoo group.
It is by report unruly and long vined, suitable for planting in light shade. Or at forrest breaks. It is perrenial wherever rainfail is adaquate (looks like the entire eastern USian)
The idea of tossing out a food bomb for serendipitous collection later, is not an idea that troubles me. In this day and age of food monopolization, a few feral plants that might keep us all alive growing untended and unmonitored, couldn't hurt.
So far the only source of seed (I have found) is at growingwildnursery, and they're sold out.
Oikos Tree Crops does offer tubers, but Kens' price is stupid spendy.
I'm still running google searches.
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Post by coppice on Dec 16, 2011 13:07:32 GMT -5
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Post by coppice on Feb 5, 2012 16:46:17 GMT -5
I took the hit and paid Ken Asimuth of OIKOS Tree Crops hefty price for tubers. I doubt he'll deliver before fall though I gotta get these going for need4seed...
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Post by woo on Feb 5, 2012 19:23:26 GMT -5
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Post by coppice on Feb 5, 2012 20:23:56 GMT -5
But, but Woo dear, I don't read or write Korean.
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Post by woo on Feb 5, 2012 20:36:10 GMT -5
But, but Woo dear, I don't read or write Korean. I think Picasa web elbum is possible. I know you can't read. I guess if you interesting apios ,just click and click---you can see a lot of photos about growing things(seeding to harvest). It is not enough, ask me what you interesting. I will tell you . Now one of USA collage student asked me several questions and I replied. Korean apios is much bigger than North America's.
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Post by swamper on Feb 7, 2012 6:45:08 GMT -5
I'd also be interested in groundnuts, korean or other productive variety. please post more detail on how to acquire. the wild apios here dont seem to make much tuber.
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Post by woo on Feb 7, 2012 15:32:42 GMT -5
I'd also be interested in groundnuts, korean or other productive variety. please post more detail on how to acquire. the wild apios here dont seem to make much tuber. Problem is Custom Office. Even I am just living one hour drive from USA border, I can't order many items from USA. If somebody seriously need Asian variety apios, let me know.
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Post by coppice on Feb 7, 2012 16:18:51 GMT -5
Swamper, Tom Wagners longish thread talks about the stuff you wanna know more about, on the older newworld crops forums. See earlier post of mine for link.
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Post by swamper on Feb 7, 2012 22:42:20 GMT -5
thanks. I wonder if the large asian market might have apios tubers.
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Post by coppice on Feb 8, 2012 12:32:29 GMT -5
thanks. I wonder if the large asian market might have apios tubers. If you set your dictionary by Wikipedia, Apios is an American plant. But where collected examples went in their horticultural travels, only shopping will tell. I guess I'm trying to sound encouraging. I'll keep casting about till I end up with a cultivar that also sets seed. It is those seed I need, for Robin's seed give away(s).
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Post by swamper on Feb 19, 2012 8:05:37 GMT -5
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Post by woo on Feb 19, 2012 10:14:28 GMT -5
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Post by coppice on Feb 21, 2012 7:31:37 GMT -5
Woo he has not answered his email, I just sent him a letter.
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Post by woo on Feb 21, 2012 14:04:10 GMT -5
Hi coppie, www.sandmountainherbs.com/ground_nut.htmlSame owner or his dad own this site. I ordered from both site,mailed same package. I am trying to bring from Korea, if different variety, I will give to peoples as possible later. oikostreecrops.com/store/home.asp Virginia Groundnut — Apios americana Grown From Seed-Fertile Flowers Produce Edible Peas Many of the selections of groundnuts are naturally occurring triploids distributed by the Native Americans. Although usually more vigorous with better tuber production, triploids are known not to produce seeds. We were fortunate to some nice selections of groundnuts that are diploids and produce the pea pods and tasty peas along with good tuber production. These were grown from seed from Virgina. Each plant will be genetically different with different types of tubers. Pea production is suppose to be very good with this strain. Hardiness -25 °F.
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Post by coppice on Feb 22, 2012 16:28:18 GMT -5
Woo there is so much anxiety at the border post 9-11. Thank you for thinking of me, but I think I gotta shop on my side of the border for tubers. Seeds they'll still let us ship, if you get a good crop of seeds, I would be pleased to buy or barter for some of those.
I do have an order in with OIKOS for tubers.
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Post by coppice on Oct 22, 2012 16:11:07 GMT -5
Ken Asmus finally shipped apios tubers. I will plant mine soonish.
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Post by coppice on Nov 1, 2012 14:20:04 GMT -5
Woo feels sure that apios tubers can go over the border. I am less sure, but I'll take the small dollar risk for other tubers.
I sure hope Woo is right, an' I'm wrong.
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