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Post by daylilydude on Oct 26, 2013 7:22:42 GMT -5
My neighbor grows these and does he get them by the boatload so I stopped by and talked to him about them as he just finished picking the last of then he left to dry for seeds and he gave me a fist full for my garden next year, has anyone here growm them?
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Oct 26, 2013 10:27:06 GMT -5
I haven't, but my grandparents did and one of my aunts still does. From what I have been told, they are about as close to "plant and forget" as a vegetable gets. They like the heat, so they are a good thing to plant when your cool-weather spring veggies start to wimp out from the heat. Flavor-wise, they are pretty good, and they are easy to shell. (I spent many a summer day in my childhood shelling cowpeas and butterbeans, so I know what I am talking about. ) I actually asked for some Purple Hull seeds in the Idig seed swap, so I am waiting to see if I get any. I don't really have room to grow enough plants to get very many peas, but I think they will make a great cover crop that might produce a meal or two. I plan to use them around the edges of the yard, and in the raised beds after I harvest the garlic.
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Post by whistech on Oct 26, 2013 11:24:40 GMT -5
I grew them in a raised bed this year. They are productive and taste so good I am going to devote another raised bed to them next year. The one thing that experienced gardeners told me was to be sure the weather was warm before planting so I planted them after my green beans had finished in the raised bed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 20:15:40 GMT -5
They are a yearly staple for us. My B-I-L planted nearly a quarter acre in them this year. We picked, shelled, blanched, and froze nearly 30 gallons, and they still didn't look like they'd been picked. LinFL's right, they do such a good job of choking their own weeds they're pretty much a plant and pick crop. Just wait until it's good and warm so they get off to a quick start. And don't plant too close to the neighbor's corn fields, as the nitrogen will give you all vines and no peas. If you can find Top Pick Purple Hulls, they're even easier as the pods will be held well above the plants. Then ride down the rows in a golf cart with a couple of five gallon buckets beside you, to be emptied into a Taylor pea sheller, and thence to a pot of boiling water over a fish cooker...
My relatives like them just boiled with salt and pepper. I prefer them with some pepper sauce or salsa. Also good in soups and stews, and of course "Tippah County caviar"...
MB
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Post by daylilydude on Oct 27, 2013 15:18:17 GMT -5
Next question... how far apart do you all think these should be planted in a raised bed?
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Post by whistech on Oct 27, 2013 17:00:38 GMT -5
I planted about 3 inches apart between seeds in rows about 8 inches apart. Mine made a lot of peas; however, I felt that they were a little too crowded so this next year I am going to plant 3 to 4 inches apart between seeds in rows about 1o inches apart. I plant to have 4 rows in a 4 feet wide raised bed.
On another note about purple hull peas, about a month to six weeks ago, I mowed the pea vines down in the raised bed and was going to till in the shredded plants. I didn't get around to tilling in the vines and now I have a raised bed full of blooming purple hull pea plants that should have peas in about 2 weeks. As you can see, purple hull peas are tough and productive.
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Post by daylilydude on Dec 22, 2013 12:10:02 GMT -5
Well grew them last year and we had a christmas dinner at the bil house lastnight so i made a crockpot full with a smoked hamhock and took there was just 1 problem... my crockpot wasn't big enough... lol
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Post by timothyt on Dec 22, 2013 14:58:34 GMT -5
Well grew them last year and we had a christmas dinner at the bil house lastnight so i made a crockpot full with a smoked hamhock and took there was just 1 problem... my crockpot wasn't big enough... lol Now thats a problem I could live with! <grin>
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Post by daylilydude on May 6, 2014 4:37:17 GMT -5
I noticed something about the seedlings yesterday... they follow the sun just like sunflowers do?? Yesterday morning while making garden rounds the leaves were facing the east, yesterday evening while making my rounds with my coffee, I noticed the leaves facing west and I thought hmmmmm... Has anyone else noticed this or is my feeble mind messin with me... again?
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Post by desertrat on May 11, 2014 16:02:09 GMT -5
What you got in that coffee? Sounds interesting!
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Post by daylilydude on May 14, 2014 13:00:32 GMT -5
What you got in that coffee? Sounds interesting! Lol... desertrat, nuttin in the coffee , and funny thing is my Bluelake bush beans are doing it to...
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Post by daylilydude on May 29, 2014 13:32:18 GMT -5
Hey Laura_in_FL, whistech, @drahkk, timothyt, desertrat , I have noticed a problem on a few of the plants, but it looks to me as they get bigger that the problem is not as bad... maybe y'all know what this is?
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Post by Laura_in_FL on May 29, 2014 16:11:00 GMT -5
Slugs? That looks like what they do to my pepper plants, anyway.
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Post by whistech on May 29, 2014 19:58:20 GMT -5
Don't worry about the holes. The peas will out grow any pests you may have.
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Post by daylilydude on Jun 18, 2014 10:10:43 GMT -5
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Jun 18, 2014 16:32:08 GMT -5
daylilydude, the ants probably won't cause any serious problem to the plants or the harvest, but if they are stinging/biting ants, they could make things mighty uncomfortable for you while you are picking. There is a good thread on exactly this topic (ants on purple hull peas) here on Gardenweb: forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/cornucop/msg08124239973.htmlI have the same problem also with okra and yardlong peas, too. They are just ant magnets. You either have to control the ants somehow or learn to work around them when tending the plants. Wasps like to hang out on okra, too. I learned the hard way to pick okra with gloves. The good news is that the wasps on the okra tend to be really mellow - they act almost sleepy - but if they are actually on a pod when you reach in to grab it...
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Post by daylilydude on Jun 22, 2014 14:44:16 GMT -5
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Post by timothyt on Jun 22, 2014 14:47:44 GMT -5
Whoot! Looking good! Nothing like munching on a mess of beans! (and bacon of course!)
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Post by elliemater on Jun 22, 2014 15:06:03 GMT -5
Believe it or not, I actually am growing some in a big pot in the front yard. The leaf-footed bugs and stinkbugs love them and will spoil them before you get those tasty peas (which I like better than the snaps...okra and snaps of southern peas are a popular dish here).
In Jacksonville I didn't have the insect problem and just made a 6" wide strip of soil all around my board on board fence and grew purple-hulls and black-eyed peas there. Like a decorative border. But yummy.
My FAVORITE meaning you haven't lived until you've tried them...are zipper cream peas. SOOO delicious!
Here's what I have but some I use for trap crops against the LF and STNKB:
Texas Pinkeye Elite Pinkeye Purple Hull Dixie Lee White Acre Quick Pik Pinkeye Mississippi Purple Big Boy Red Ripper Mississippi Pinkeye Blue Goose Lady Cream Zipper Cream
If anybody wants to try some for fun I'd sure be willing to share. I have to say that those I have in my pots this summer are gorgeous, covered with pods, and no darned LF or STNKB around them.
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Jun 23, 2014 11:07:30 GMT -5
Woot, daylilydude, those peas are looking nice. Tasty meal coming soon. You're gonna have some ripe tomatoes to serve alongside them, right? Oooh, elliemater, I have been wanting some White Acre peas...those were my favorites growing up. They are kind of a pain to shell, but worth it. I'll ping you about a trade...there's gotta be something I have that you don't.
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Post by elliemater on Jun 23, 2014 11:09:09 GMT -5
Woot, daylilydude, those peas are looking nice. Tasty meal coming soon. You're gonna have some ripe tomatoes to serve alongside them, right? Oooh, elliemater, I have been wanting some White Acre peas...those were my favorites growing up. They are kind of a pain to shell, but worth it. I'll ping you about a trade...there's gotta be something I have that you don't. You've got a lovely smile that I can be happy imagining when you eat these yummy things. About how many can you use? (I gotta bagful)
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Jun 23, 2014 11:39:55 GMT -5
Awww...you're sweet! Using Whistech's spacing (4" apart in the row, 4 rows in a 4' wide raised bed), 48 seeds would fill the 4x4 raised bed I have sitting empty. But you didn't say what size your "bagful" is - it might be a snack baggie and it might be a yard trash bag. If you send fewer seeds I can always grow them out for more seeds. You realize that if you keep giving me stuff, I am going to come to your house and sneak some baby fruit trees into your yard.
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Post by elliemater on Jun 23, 2014 12:23:24 GMT -5
Awww...you're sweet! Using Whistech's spacing (4" apart in the row, 4 rows in a 4' wide raised bed), 48 seeds would fill the 4x4 raised bed I have sitting empty. But you didn't say what size your "bagful" is - it might be a snack baggie and it might be a yard trash bag. If you send fewer seeds I can always grow them out for more seeds. You realize that if you keep giving me stuff, I am going to come to your house and sneak some baby fruit trees into your yard. These guys like peas and other beans seem to love crowding. And 4" apart in a row leaves huge gaps when some don't germinate. Call me kooky (really, you can! ) but I space at 1"...or I just dribble them out of my fingers and let them fall as they will with no gaps greater than 2". And I fit three rows into a bed that is about 3 to 4ft across. With good soil and mulch it seems to work well. I mulch when they are up and growing. You maybe have even better methods.
I'm thinkin' more than 48 seeds.
Can you PM addy again? You know I am terrible at keeping addys.
Fruit trees! Oh boy! I'll leave the gate unlocked! (And bring your swimsuit, we'll have a par-tay!)
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