billh
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Post by billh on Mar 15, 2014 19:21:10 GMT -5
will peppers make more of a root system if planted deeper like a tomatoe?
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Post by daylilydude on Mar 15, 2014 20:13:35 GMT -5
will peppers make more of a root system if planted deeper like a tomatoe? billh, I don't think they do, but I could be wrong... now myself, I do plant mine a little deeper than the root ball only because when I plant my peppers it's our Spring rainy season and we get some pretty strong winds so I just do it for stability.
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Post by stratcat on Mar 15, 2014 22:23:24 GMT -5
Hi, Billh. In my experience, I occasionally see peppers with roots sticking out above the soil. I, too, would plant them deeper than they grew in their cups. Here's a photo taken tonight of three varieties of peppers in one box with roots coming out the stems. Anyone else notice this?
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Post by timothyt on Mar 16, 2014 4:31:30 GMT -5
I also plant my peppers a little deeper for stability and for root growth. Like Stratcat's picture shows I have seen some higher root formation on some of my seedlings and about 50% on plants when pulled out of the garden in the Fall.
I use to think it was dependent on the variety of the pepper, so I've been taking notes on which ones form additional higher roots over the past few years. I average between 35-45 varieties a year. Seems to be connected to environment and soil as well as variety. Some years a variety will form higher roots, some years not. Seems this holds true whether they are annuums, baccatums, or chinense.
I have also noticed that a higher percentage of my container grown peppers will grow more roots above root ball than those planted in the raised beds. Size of container (1 gal. to 10 gal.) does not seem to make a difference.
And I've never noticed any detrimental issues in planting deeper when compared side by side with shallow planted peppers. Also have not really noticed a difference between deep or shallow when tracking Days to maturity or the quantity, quality, or size of fruit.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.....at least for now! <grin>
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Post by timothyt on Mar 16, 2014 4:44:58 GMT -5
Don't mean to highjack the thread (which of course means that I will!) ....Stracat, I noticed your marker that was labled "3 leg no save". I'm assuming that the "3" indicates 3 nurse leaves or cotyledons. So you are not saving the plant? Or not saving seeds from the plant? I've heard both pros and cons about saving plants/seeds from those with triple or quad cotyledons compared to the normal 2. Was just interested in what you've heard or experienced.
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Post by stratcat on Mar 16, 2014 11:36:09 GMT -5
Don't mean to highjack the thread (which of course means that I will!) ....Stracat, I noticed your marker that was labled "3 leg no save". I'm assuming that the "3" indicates 3 nurse leaves or cotyledons. So you are not saving the plant? Or not saving seeds from the plant? I've heard both pros and cons about saving plants/seeds from those with triple or quad cotyledons compared to the normal 2. Was just interested in what you've heard or experienced. Hi, Timothy. Good eye. Pertaining to tomatoes, I read a long time ago not to save seed from three-cotyledon plants as the fruit production diminishes. I made an educated guess to apply that rule of thumb to seed saving from triple cotyledon peppers like the one in the picture.
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Post by paquebot on Mar 17, 2014 1:11:15 GMT -5
Good eye. Pertaining to tomatoes, I read a long time ago not to save seed from three-cotyledon plants as the fruit production diminishes. I made an educated guess to apply that rule of thumb to seed saving from triple cotyledon peppers like the one in the picture. Inasmuch as I have been studying tri-cot tomatoes for 15 years, I would be curious as to where you read that production is less than normal. I find little change one way or the other with indeterminates but increased with determinates. A tri-cot means one more lateral to produce fruit on. Martin
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Post by timothyt on Mar 17, 2014 6:25:55 GMT -5
Hey Strat and Martin! Thanks for the information! Had my chance to experiment last year with 1 pepper plant and 2 mater plants that were all tri-cots. But for some reason I never ended up planting those. Might have to see if I get any this season and make sure I mark them well this time! Always lots of interesting things to trial and experiment with out there in the garden!
And Billh: If you've got the room, why don't you try some side by side comparisons this season on pepper depth planting and let us know what you come up with.
Garden On!
TimothyT
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billh
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Post by billh on Apr 15, 2014 5:36:13 GMT -5
I think I will, Thanks TimothyT
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Post by timothyt on Apr 15, 2014 7:33:24 GMT -5
I think I will, Thanks TimothyT Cool Beans! Let us know how it goes!
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Post by daylilydude on Apr 16, 2014 2:00:46 GMT -5
billh, I agree with timothyt this will be interesting to see how this goes... I hope you can post pics with this?
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Post by billh on Apr 16, 2014 5:22:30 GMT -5
DLD I'll be trying to put pictures up. Just have to figure it out Man that confused little guy is use a lot.
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