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Post by daylilydude on May 3, 2015 6:24:00 GMT -5
Can they be grown in the same bed? I was thinking of planting Walthams Butternut squash on 1 side of the garden, and Crimson Sweet watermelon on the other and the vines will probably intermingle, see any problems... your thoughts?
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Post by whistech on May 3, 2015 9:57:02 GMT -5
I will be watching this thread for an answer. I planted Crimson Sweet and butternut nut squash about 2 weeks ago in the same bed and didn't even think about cross pollenation or other issues until I saw your post.
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Post by paulf on May 3, 2015 10:41:52 GMT -5
Watermelon (Citrullus Ianatus) and Butternut squash (Curcurbita Moschata) are different species and will not cross pollenate. Plant away.
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Post by Laura_in_FL on May 3, 2015 12:54:12 GMT -5
What Paul said.
The only potential problem I see is if one vine is so vigorous that it shades or crowds out the other. If I had to pick a winner, I'd bet on the squash because of its huge leaves and its ability to root along the vine.
However, since watermelons are flexible and don't root along the vine, you can easily pick them up and reposition them to get them out of the shade of the squash leaves if necessary.
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Post by spacecase0 on May 4, 2015 10:32:20 GMT -5
I did it last year with no issues at all, but I did train the 2 plants in opposite directions
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Post by Zebi on Dec 4, 2018 0:58:26 GMT -5
The only problem that comes to mind is that if the squash attract squash bugs, a few of the squash bugs might migrate to the watermelons if they get extra hungry (but it probably won't hurt them). None of our squash bugs on nearby C. pepo (Trivoli F1 spaghetti squash, and two kinds of zucchini) plants migrated to our watermelons, this year, but in 2016, plenty of them migrated from the Dark Star Zucchini (after it died) to our muskmelons, and a few of them (maybe one or two that I saw) went on the watermelons further away.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 12:29:07 GMT -5
Butternut squash has a solid stem and is not susceptible to squash bugs--Acorn squash, summer squash are vulnerable.
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Post by paquebot on Jun 23, 2019 13:22:08 GMT -5
Butternut squash has a solid stem and is not susceptible to squash bugs--Acorn squash, summer squash are vulnerable. You are confusing squash vine borers with squash bugs. Two separate villans. One attacks the stem and the other attacks the leaves. . Martin The truth is more important than the facts.
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Post by brownrexx on Jun 23, 2019 14:46:12 GMT -5
I plant Burpee's Butterbush which does not have long vines. It is considered to be a bush type although it is not quite as compact as something like a zucchini plant. It still saves space for me and I need that since I grow multiple types of squash.
The butternuts are susceptible to squash bugs but not the squash vine borer.
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Post by paquebot on Jun 24, 2019 15:24:50 GMT -5
For compatibility, revert to the thread about root systems. If a watermelon has 18' vines, the roots will expand just as far. They can fruit in dry areas because of their ability to draw water from a huge area. Vining squash have very similar growth habits as watermelon. Crowding them robs from both.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 20:07:56 GMT -5
Martin; it appears that I am not familiar with the squash bug; no trouble from them. Borers, on the other hand, are death to squash here. I'll have to look up the squash bug and see what is eating squash in your neighborhood.
And yes, I plant squash and melons in separate beds, at least 30 feet between beds. I do keep them in a part of the garden well removed from the house but close to water.
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Post by Zebi on Jul 15, 2019 21:05:47 GMT -5
daylilydude , So, what happened? I'm wondering if maybe it's what happens with watermelon and indeterminate tomatoes. In that scenario, in my garden, the watermelon traveled into the tomato growth and secretly fruited under it! It might happen again, this year (I didn't think much about bordering tomatoes and watermelon this year until I saw the watermelon heading into the tomato patch): Here's a watermelon that grew right through a large, uncaged Early Girl F1 plant (this is the other side of the tomato plant): With muskmelons and watermelon, in my garden, the muskmelons just won out.
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Post by Zebi on Jul 15, 2019 21:22:46 GMT -5
It's not watermelon, but here's a West India burr gherkin head-to-head with a Black Futsu squash. It's growing underneath it, too. However, I think watermelon actually enjoy growing into tomato plants, while I don't think this burr gherkin finds it particularly stimulating. real steel charlie
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Jul 16, 2019 12:34:02 GMT -5
One year I had a long-vined watermelon growing between and around the Earthboxes that I had my peppers in. The boxes had cages over them to support the pepper. The watermelons yielded fruit, but what a mess that was with the vines growing all over the boxes and cages. It made it hard to get in the resulting "jungle" to take care of the pepper plants and harvest the peppers.
However, the pepper plants didn't seem to be bothered by the watermelon vines, as long as I made sure none of the watermelon fruits were growing where they would crush a pepper plant.
This year I have okra in big tall cages and HoneyNut squash under them, so I am trying to wind the HoneyNut squash vines around in the raised beds and keep them from climbing up the cages so I will be able to pick my okra when it's time.
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