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Post by daylilydude on Dec 15, 2017 5:19:21 GMT -5
Now there are times when i'm looking up a plant online and the would use one or the other term... what is the difference between them... they mean the same... right??
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Post by brownrexx on Dec 15, 2017 9:12:42 GMT -5
Maybe partial sun would be mostly shade with just a little bit of sun and partial shade would be mostly sun with just a little bit of shade
but it sounds like splitting hairs to me.
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Post by stone on Dec 15, 2017 9:36:12 GMT -5
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Dec 15, 2017 10:24:27 GMT -5
That link gives a very good description of sun requirements.
To that description I can only add that if you are in low latitudes (where summer sunlight is more intense) or if you are in a hot, dry climate, be extra careful about sun exposure for your plants.
Here in Florida even some plants that are sold for growing in "full sun" actually need some shade during the hottest part of the afternoon. The sunlight is so intense that transpiration rates exceed the plants' ability to uptake water, even if the soil is moist. You know those heavily-marketed "SunPatiens" that supposedly take full sun? I had them one year, kept them well watered (automatic irrigation) and deeply mulched, yet every sunny summer afternoon they would wilt badly. On cloudy days they were fine. The wilting didn't seem to harm them, but who wants front-yard ornamentals that look terrible every afternoon? As far as vegetables go, many cucumbers can't handle Florida summer afternoons, either. In July and August, my cucumbers wilt every afternoon unless there's substantial cloudiness, even if they are growing in a SIP where the soil stays consistently moist. Some varieties of okra and sweet peppers wilt on sunny summer days here, too. (Hot peppers are usually okay).
I'd guess that in the Desert Southwest, it's even worse.
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Post by Gianna on Dec 15, 2017 11:04:52 GMT -5
Here in Florida even some plants that are sold for growing in "full sun" actually need some shade during the hottest part of the afternoon. The sunlight is so intense that transpiration rates exceed the plants' ability to uptake water, even if the soil is moist. I did a little experimenting with shade cloth this past summer and was impressed with the results. I'd always thought full sun was the best for certain things, but now not so much. I was even able to grow lettuce through August under shade cloth. This coming summer I'm planning to try even more in limited areas, especially during very hot episodes. As well as trying strategic planting to take advantage of later afternoon shade. My plan is to support the light-weight shade cloth over some beds with the smaller tomato cages and attach it with wooden clothes pins. Easy on, easy off.
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Dec 15, 2017 11:16:16 GMT -5
Every year I think I should shadecloth over my sweet peppers, but somehow I haven't actually done it. I get a lot of thunderstorms in the summer, though, so I think I would need something stronger than clothespins to keep the shadecloth in place.
(Oh, and with the hot, humid days and warm, humid nights I have in the summer, lettuce in August doesn't happen, even in the shade.)
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Post by Gianna on Dec 15, 2017 13:23:08 GMT -5
My chilies are what I was planning on experimenting with because I had too much sunscald on the fruits. Shade cloth along with closer spacing. I had been thinking of planting in the afternoon shade of the house, but I wanted more control. I used clothes pins for my version of shade cloth this summer and they held. I use the wooden ones, which are very inexpensive if you have a Target. They actually are pretty strong. We don't have thunderstorms, but we do have winds, and even if the cloth was to blow off, it's lightweight and wouldn't harm anything. I want to be able to fully and easily remove the shade because we also can have a daily marine layer and no sun for what seems like weeks. I also want it up and not touching the plants for air circulation. As for lettuce, I was surprised it was good in August. Other factors for success were the varieties - French Battavians which can be better in the warmth. I also spritzed them once or twice per day. And our August was not as hot as usual. So... I doubt I would be able to grow lettuce every August, but this past year, it was very nice. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/3247375/images/AgR8NN4iidU1wy_OcyQm.png)
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Post by aqua on Dec 15, 2017 13:55:05 GMT -5
Laura_in_FL, (Oh, and with the hot, humid days and warm, humid nights I have in the summer, lettuce in August doesn't happen, even in the shade.)
August? shoot, these days I'm lucky to even get it in December.
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Dec 15, 2017 14:57:26 GMT -5
Tough year for lettuce? ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/3247375/images/NVJWsLkJnfi619MwuIqb.png)
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