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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 20, 2018 19:07:42 GMT -5
@annette yoo hoo, like an idiot, I only put your name on this bottle of beans. Anyway you can tell what it is by the picture. I know, I know, I'm a goofball.
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Post by aftermidnight on Jan 20, 2018 22:25:14 GMT -5
hairymooseknuckles, This is the bean that started the ball rolling and got me hooked, in searching for the identity of this bean I ended up with a LOT of Italian beans, some I bought plus all the ones everyone so kindly shared with me , we came close with 'Uncle Steve's' but no cigar. By the time I found out where they came from and their history one of the fridge crisper drawers was overflowing with bean seed and I had boxes of bean seed stored under a bed and I was well on the way to being a beanaholic . When I started sharing them I had to give them a name so I named them Auntie Vi, Vi short for Vancouver Island. I sent some Auntie Vi down to Keith to see if they looked anything like his Uncle Steve's, his came over from Sicily the same year Auntie Vi came over from Northern Italy. Close but no cigar. Their story, short version. EMELIA.S ITALIAN POLE BEAN... A.K.A. AUNTIE VI I found out where the Italian pole bean I'd been growing since 1965 came from quite by chance. I was talking to a co-worker of DH's one day out at a local flower show. He asked me what I'd been doing since I was no longer growing and showing dahlias. I told him I'd been bitten by the bean bug and it was all the fault of this Italian pole bean given me by a neighbor back in 65. The only information I had on it was that it came over from Italy in the early 1900s and had been grown in our south end neighborhood since then. Dh's co-worker gave me a funny look and said they might be the beans his grandmother brought with her when she immigrated to Canada but wouldn't know for sure until he saw them. When I showed him the beans he confirmed that they were one of the beans his grandmother brought with her. The family no longer had them so I was happy I could give them another start. His grandmother Mrs. Emelia Fulla brought them with her when she immigrated to Canada from the town of St. Peitro in the Provence of Udine in Northern Italy. She and her husband lived on the first block of the same street we do now only about a mile or so down the road in the first block. I said I had given them a temporary name because I'd started sharing my seed with others but would like to change it, it didn't matter to him but after some thought I have decided to change the name I gave them to 'Emelia's Italian Pole Bean' in honor of the lady who's bean I have been growing and enjoying all these years. I've spread them around a bit, they've even made their way to the UK and they're now sold commercially in Canada by Heritage Harvest Seed, Remy has them too but not on her list this year. Annette's bean is now named Emelia's Italian Pole Bean. Annette
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jan 20, 2018 22:45:54 GMT -5
Thank You!!!!
Inzoo zee garden zay go dis year!
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Post by paquebot on Jan 21, 2018 22:13:05 GMT -5
They could very well be the same as Steve's. He thought that he had two varieties because of different colors. I grew them for 4 or 5 years and never got the same thing twice. There were even some which were blue when young and dried to gray. If I had just worked with 4 or 5 of the variations, I could probably have claimed as many "new" varieties.
Martin
The truth is more important than the facts.
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Post by aftermidnight on Jan 21, 2018 23:19:11 GMT -5
paquebot, Keith and I compared our beans they aren't the same. a comparison of them growing... Mine on the left, Uncle Steve's on the right I found these while searching the web The cultivation of this ecotypes started in the 1950's when seeds from Lamon (see Veneto regions) were introduced in the Cuneo province." Cuneo right next to Udine in Northern Italy Whereas mine came over in 1911 Mine Uncle Steve's Emelia's look just like Billo I haven't found another bean to even come close Annette ( who hopes she's got all the pictures in the right place)
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Post by horsea on Apr 26, 2018 16:56:57 GMT -5
It would appear that the official spelling is "Emilia's". Anyway, I just plucked my collection of bean seeds (a lot of them from Annette)from the freezer and decided to have a look at what www.abeancollectorswindow.com/beanpage2.html had to say about the various varieties I have. Here is the entry: Pole/Snap. Early and productive. This bean is named in honor of the lady who brought them to Nanaimo British Columbia, Canada from Italy in 1911. Mrs. Emilia Fuller immigrated to Canada from the town of St. Peitro in the provence of Udine in Northern Italy. This bean was originally distributed as "Auntie Vi’s". Annette Barley of Nanaimo had convinced an early seed seller of the bean that Emilia’s Italian was a better tribute. Annette sent me the bean in 2016 and told me that using it as a snap bean is the only way she has used the variety
Can't wait til the weather smartens up and I can plant my little "collection". All 10 of them! Thanks, Annette.
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Post by aftermidnight on Apr 29, 2018 17:55:49 GMT -5
My bad horsea , Russ got them from me. I spelt the name wrong and have been trying to correct the spelling every time I see it. It should be "Emelia's" Italian Pole. These darn fingers of mine have a mind of their own, never know what they're going to type next . Russ got a bit of the history wrong, it wasn't a seed seller, it was me talking to Mrs. Fuller's grandson and getting the history that made me change the name, I thought it fitting. This is the bean that started me on the path of bean addiction . Annette
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Post by horsea on Apr 30, 2018 23:46:51 GMT -5
Thanks for clearing up the history. So, you are saying that "Emelia" is the correct spelling, then? So this is the bean what done it for ya!! I got into pole beans via Gold of Bacau. However, its growing season is a touch long, so I've graduated to others. Just for the hel of it I tucked one little Yellow Eye Pea into the soil last year and was amazed at how quick it was to mature. For soup, that has to be the best tasting ever.
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