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Post by brownrexx on Oct 20, 2018 8:29:45 GMT -5
Did you plant your garlic yet? What kind did you plant and how many?
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Post by brownrexx on Oct 20, 2018 8:31:40 GMT -5
I planted 20 nice big cloves of Estonian Red last week and covered the bed with pine needles.
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Post by paulf on Oct 20, 2018 9:33:18 GMT -5
Don't plant, grow or eat it.
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Post by september on Oct 20, 2018 9:41:39 GMT -5
I didn't plant any this year. I planted the last two years, and really didn't use up enough to warrant growing my own. I still have lots left from the first year, even though it's now got green tips and poor quality. I enjoy growing it, and probably will again sometime, but it's not a priority. And I will plant less next time! I love the taste of garlic, but I tend to be in a hurry when I cook, so I usually end up using garlic powder rather than take the time to peel cloves.
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Post by pepperhead212 on Oct 20, 2018 10:05:38 GMT -5
I have a pound each of Estonian red, Metechi, and a new one, to me, Siberian. Usually a week or so into November, they go into the ground.
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Post by paquebot on Oct 20, 2018 13:54:48 GMT -5
Planted mine on 22 September.110 cloves of my own Martin's. About half were up about an inch or so a couple days ago when I covered them with several inches of white pine needles. Sent just under a pound to a gardener in Oregon this morning. That's the last going out this year. Only bulbils available now.
Matin
The truth is more important than the facts.
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Post by pondgardener on Oct 20, 2018 15:41:33 GMT -5
I planted about a pound of Metechi and a pound of Lorz Italian just before our first hard freeze and light snow. Covered them up with some pine needles as well, although it will still be weeks before the ground really freezes.
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Post by spike on Oct 20, 2018 16:02:09 GMT -5
10 big cloves of Music and 10 of Inchelium - Today
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Post by Gianna on Oct 20, 2018 19:31:53 GMT -5
I don't grow it. Last time I did, gophers got it. Hope their underground runs were unpleasantly pungent, lol.
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Post by guruofgardens on Oct 20, 2018 20:04:05 GMT -5
Yesterday I planted about 100 Estonian Red cloves, 40 Music, and 40 Elephant. Today I covered them with old leaves and leaf mold. Because of the winds in the winter, I laid fencing over the mulch.
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Post by paquebot on Oct 20, 2018 22:14:06 GMT -5
guru, that reminds me of one year at We Grow Garlic. For several years, we spread straw by hand. No small job when there were maybe 40,000 cloves planted. A landscaper with a straw blower was hired to cover the two fieds. Looked beautiful for a few days. Then a big wind came along and all the straw vanished!
Martin
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Post by janr on Oct 21, 2018 7:04:38 GMT -5
Our weather has been terrible this fall and I didn't think it was going to happen. I hope to get it done today. I will cover it with leaves.
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Post by horsea on Oct 21, 2018 22:50:56 GMT -5
Seeded 40 cloves of Italian Purple, Legacy, Persian Star & Spanish Roja 3 wk. ago. Covered with chopped up dried leaves & grass clippings.
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Oct 22, 2018 6:11:17 GMT -5
Last year, I think I planted about 80 cloves? Too many unused. So I went back to planting approximately 50 of a variety obtained from a local museum garden. They've produced the best of anything I've planted here. Seems strange though just to have one variety.
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Post by paquebot on Oct 22, 2018 19:05:54 GMT -5
One reason for planting just one is so they don't get mixed up. Saw that a few times at We Grow Garlic when I know some were not right. Also, if one finds a really good one, no reason to not stay with it alone. With me, I'm also offering it to others. I know that someone got a wrong bulb last year when i was sorting out the bulbils and found one scape head that was not rocambole.
Martin
The truth is more important than the facts.
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Post by horsea on Oct 23, 2018 9:41:08 GMT -5
About hard-neck garlic, they say to remove the scapes. Well, starting last year, I decided not to do this. The crop was just as big, just as good as any that were de-scaped. There are reasons for commercial growers to do this, but the rest of us? I'm not convinced. The scapes are beautiful and produce little seeds that I drop at the edge of the garden and in a few years I've got some "free" garlic.
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Post by paquebot on Oct 23, 2018 18:11:17 GMT -5
The scape thing has been debunked so many times but too late to fight it. To prove that removing scapes is beneficial, the study would have to be done in one season and one row. We did that with close to 100 hardneck varieties and no difference in any of them.
Main reason for me to save the scape is that I always include bulbils in my garlic offer. Being a rocambole, they will produce a divided bulb in one season. They are a cheap way to grow a lot of garlic with little cash outlay. Also is the only way that garlic can be sent to or from Canada.
I wasn't involved in the first couple years of We Grow Garlic but they didn't remove the scapes after havesting. Plants were hung as is. They said that it was like working on marbles when bulbils covered the floor!
Martin
The truth is more important than the facts.
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Post by tomike on Oct 24, 2018 12:42:05 GMT -5
Planning on putting in ground next week 25 to 30 cloves of Music from this year's garlic grown in my garden.....
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Post by pepperhead212 on Oct 26, 2018 13:53:50 GMT -5
Garlic is in! I planted all 72 cloves of Metechi yesterday, and 53 each of Siberian and Estonian red. I raked the ground smooth, then spinkled the trimmings from my lemongrass over them, thinking that maybe that would deter some pests from there, then I mulched it with a little old straw I had - usually I have the Halloween straw I trashpick, plus a lot of leaves, but I did this early, and leaves are falling late, so I'll do more mulching later.
I was going to plant less garlic, and some shallots instead, but that Siberian garlic sounded good, so I got a pound of that, plus the two I always grow. And some of those cloves were larger than the Estonian reds largest cloves this year. I'll find out how they grow, and how they taste, as well as how they store; maybe it will be another keeper. I have those leftover smaller cloves from the Siberian and Estonian red, so I'll compare those, now.
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Post by paquebot on Oct 26, 2018 17:05:33 GMT -5
Love to see Estonian Red being gown. A little trivia here. More than likely, it came through me. I got it from a grower in Denmark as bulbils around 2003. Took 3 years to get it up to size. From me it went to We Grow Garlic and from there to other commercial growers. At same time, another SSE member brought back some cloves and also got them started. We both got them as Red Estonian but that is a breed of cattle. It was decided that Estonian Red was a better call. Regardless of its name, it's a good one.
Martin
The truth is more important than the facts.
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Post by pepperhead212 on Oct 26, 2018 17:35:33 GMT -5
paquebot Estonian red has been a favorite, since I discovered it. It was not real easy to find, and a couple of years early on, I had to go without. Much more available now, and I just shop all the available places, looking for other favorite varieties. Only thing that I don't like about it is that it doesn't store as long as many others. Even trying to save some for planting was a little too long. However, I just use it first, and they all get used.
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Post by guruofgardens on Oct 26, 2018 20:29:44 GMT -5
Love to see Estonian Red being gown. A little trivia here. More than likely, it came through me. I got it from a grower in Denmark as bulbils around 2003. Took 3 years to get it up to size. From me it went to We Grow Garlic and from there to other commercial growers. At same time, another SSE member brought back some cloves and also got them started. We both got them as Red Estonian but that is a breed of cattle. It was decided that Estonian Red was a better call. Regardless of its name, it's a good one. Martin The truth is more important than the facts. Truth be known, around 2010 my first attempt at garlic growing was Estonian Red. We had visited Estonia 15 years before and the name just stuck in my head. Yes, I did purchase 6 heads from We Grow Garlic and have been sharing/growing them since. Right now it's my favorite garlic that produces larger/stronger cloves. So thanks, Martin. You have been essential in starting a garlic revolution! This year I shared my extras with people in 3 states.
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Post by brownrexx on Oct 26, 2018 20:49:10 GMT -5
I am also growing Estonian Red. They were gifted to me by a friend about 3 years ago and she got them from a different friend prior to that so I don't know where they originally came from but they are nice garlic.
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Post by paquebot on Oct 27, 2018 18:00:08 GMT -5
guruofgardens always nice to see good reports on something that came through my gardens. Wasn't something easy to get Estonian Red into the system. It arrived as about 60 tiny bulbils. They resulted in about half that many pea-size rounds. Second year, still a round but a little bigger than a marble. Third year, divided bulbs about 1½". I never saw the final size in my garden as it was at that point where I turned it all over to Karen and Mike. Thus it was 4 years after starting the project that I finally saw their great size. Not every gardener has that much patience. Martin The truth is more important than the facts.
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Post by pepperhead212 on Oct 27, 2018 18:17:35 GMT -5
Thank you for your diligence, paquebot - I will think of you when I plant, harvest, and use Estonian reds from now on!
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