tallpines
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Jun 8, 2019 16:27:30 GMT -5
Post by tallpines on Jun 8, 2019 16:27:30 GMT -5
Do grape vines need a companion vine for best production?
Will a single vine do well?
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dirtguy50
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Jun 8, 2019 19:25:40 GMT -5
Post by dirtguy50 on Jun 8, 2019 19:25:40 GMT -5
No clue. Hopefully, someone with more knowledge will chime in here.
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Jun 8, 2019 19:25:40 GMT -5
Post by paulf on Jun 8, 2019 19:25:40 GMT -5
My local winery owner and grape owner says there are some self fertilizing grapes and some that need a companion. I don't know which are which so it would be best to know the variety and look up what they need or not. Best I can do.
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Jun 8, 2019 19:51:40 GMT -5
Post by pondgardener on Jun 8, 2019 19:51:40 GMT -5
I only have one grape vine (Concord Seedless) and I get a decent crop of grapes each year. But it may be what is considered self-fruitful. Now maybe for best production, you would want at least a couple more of the same variety for self-pollinating. And from what I have read, if you are wanting to grow muscadine grapes, you would need a cross-pollinator of a different variety. But I am certainly no expert...
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Jun 8, 2019 20:23:25 GMT -5
Post by spacecase0 on Jun 8, 2019 20:23:25 GMT -5
I have a chardonnay grape plant and it pollinates itself, no idea that some grapes did not do that.
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Post by paquebot on Jun 8, 2019 21:38:56 GMT -5
Without scouring the Internet, just need some common rules about them. Wild grapes would need a pollinator, domestic grapes would not. Wild grapes also have both male and female plants. A clue would be seeds or lack thereof. Pollination is to produce fertile seeds. Seedless varieties don't produce seeds and others don't produce fertile seeds. (Muscadines, by the way, are essentially wild.)
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tallpines
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Jun 9, 2019 12:18:18 GMT -5
Post by tallpines on Jun 9, 2019 12:18:18 GMT -5
I just planted a single seedless Valencia sweet grape.
..... so I should be okay ?!?!
Is there another seedless sweet grape for Zone 4 that you can recommend?
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Jun 10, 2019 11:26:49 GMT -5
Valencia, Concord, and other bunching/table grapes are self-fertile. You will get a crop from a single plant. However, two or more vines of the same variety growing near each other may improve fruit production.
Older varieties of muscadine grapes were either all-male or all-female. So you needed a male variety and a female variety growing near each other to get fruit. However, there are some newer self-fertile varieties. But of course you won't be growing muscadines in Zone 4.
I think most of the newer table-muscadine hybrid grapes are self-fertile also, but I am not sure about that.
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Jun 26, 2019 13:17:29 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 13:17:29 GMT -5
Tallpines; The U. of Arkansas has done extensive development of grapes for the commercial market. Look at their grape website. I have planted their grapes in OK and found that they were highly productive, seedless and tasty, both red and green varieties. Here in Arkansas a grower sold me mis-labeled grapes, so I have to start over=-==
Further, the local cou0nty agent tells me that the U. has developed an even better table grape, so I cannot suggest a variety now.
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