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Post by brownrexx on Jun 9, 2019 7:36:15 GMT -5
Some of you started many, many, many tomato seedlings. How many plants are you growing in your garden this year?
I am growing 16 which is about average for me. I actually planned on 15 but one of them looked really bad after planting in the garden and I thought that it would die so I started another seed and just planted out that little seedling yesterday. The first seedling bounced back so now I have 2 Madame Marmande plants. It's a Burpee hybrid that saw on a rack for 1/2 price and I wanted to try.
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Post by paulf on Jun 9, 2019 8:07:30 GMT -5
This is the first year with 20 plants, 20 varieties. In the past it was 35 and 35. 150 seedlings instead of 400. Of the extras, all were given away. I always have one extra of each variety for myself in case of weather or animal related death of a plant. After everything seemed to do well, the extras were given away. There were a couple of late requests but I had nothing more to give.
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Post by coppice on Jun 9, 2019 8:13:41 GMT -5
I got eight of Anthony's tomato grow. Four went out to the senior towers garden, and four went out at Daughter's garden patch. Well actually it was more like 10 plants but a couple were twinned in pots and never separated.
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Post by octave1 on Jun 9, 2019 8:25:05 GMT -5
25 plants this year. Eight are small fruited tomatoes, the rest a mix of paste and small beefsteak. Several varieties are new to me. And like paulf, I gave away many seedlings once I was done transplanting.
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Post by september on Jun 9, 2019 9:02:43 GMT -5
I never did count up the plants or varieties, some of the experimental ones in development I keep at least 6 plants each selection. Most varieties had 4 seeds started, more for really old seeds. I keep two plants each and give the rest away. This was my plant list this spring.
Tomatoes seeded 2019 (*new to me) Azoychka Bammer's Luck* Brandywine Sudduth Buckeye State Buturoage* Captain Lucky White* Chris's Greek Mama* Coustralee Cow's Tit Dorothy's Mennonite Bicolor* Dorothy's Mennonite (Beefsteak?)* Dwarf Blazing Beauty Extrameño Baterno Faelan's First Snow Frosty Pink Plum* German Red Strawberry* Giannini* Hungarian Heart* (no germination) JD's Special C-Tex Kosovo Lucid Gem* Mat-Su Express Prue Queen Marbena* Rebel Yell Rosa vom Todesstern* Smiley Worms* Sophie's Choice Spudayellow Strawberry* Stupice Sweet Scarlet Dwarf Tiffen Mennonite Wes Yellow Brandywine, Platfoot Cherries & Small fruited or basket
Aztek* Black Cherry Cranberries in Sugar* Iva's Red Berry Maglia Rosa* Red Grape 'Super Sweet' Snow White cherry Sungold F1 Sweet Million* New Stable CreationsMoonlight Mile F8 (Blane) Karen's True North series Midnight Sun * Polaris* Taiga* True Colors* Ongoing Projects in progressMoonlight Mile F5 pink/org stripes Harmony lines Harmonic Convergence F7 Dwarf Pink Livija F7 Dwarf Acey lines all F3 Dwarf Ziggy Ace Dwarf Flashy Ace Michelle's Ace Acey F3 BG5 red RF Acey F3 BG4 yellow PL Acey F3 BG red PL Dan Follett 3X-F3-1 – RL (Hugh's Black X Azoychka) This is a picture from last year.
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Post by ladymarmalade on Jun 9, 2019 9:07:08 GMT -5
All 109 plants were tucked into their growing spots yesterday. Most went in the ground. Four are a project I'm working on and were put in a raised bed separate from the rest. Five are dwarf or micros so I put them in pots.
I saved out one Orange Pinocchio to give to my mom or I would have 110.
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Post by paquebot on Jun 9, 2019 9:23:54 GMT -5
This was a good opportunity to go out and get an accurate count. Officially there are 78 but could increase to 80 if 2 more recover from the 2,4-D spray. Almost every color and size represented again. Haven't compiled a list of varieties but 40 would be close. Four micro-dwarfs are planted with the strawberries. Larger dwarfs got pots.
/// Final count: 81 plants, 42 vareties.
Martin
The truth is more important than the facts.
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Post by pepperhead212 on Jun 9, 2019 10:26:44 GMT -5
I have 32, as far as plants, and 19 varieties, more than half of those being new. I love fresh tomatoes, and I eat so many while I can, I get "tomatoed out", to last until next season, though I am usually beginning to have withdrawal, by the time the first ripe tomato shows up.
Larger fruited varieties: * = new to me Amish gold slicer 1 Beefy Boy* 2 Big Beef 2 Black Vernisage 2 Burracker's Favorite 1 Chef's Choice orange red* 2 Chef's Choice green* 1 Goliath Pio* 2 Lime Green Salad* 1 Pretty in Pink 1 Stupice* 1
Smaller fruited varieties:
Black Opal* 1 Cherry Bomb* 2 Green Tiger 3 Jasper* 2 Pink Champagne* 1 Sprite* 2 (from Mumsey ) Sunset Falls 3, succession planted, one more to come. Sunsugar 2
The sunsugar or the sunset falls will again be the first ripe - time will tell which one. There are a bunch of full sized, so it won't be long...
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Post by carolyn on Jun 9, 2019 21:04:37 GMT -5
so far I have 205 planted and 1/2 row of space still.
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Post by Gianna on Jun 9, 2019 21:45:52 GMT -5
I have about 14, some in the ground, some in large pots. I start many more seedlings but enjoy giving the extras away. I give away far more than I keep and still didnt have enough for people who wanted them. I have some cuttings going now to fulfill those last requests as well as planting more here.
I picked and ate the first ripe tomato day before yesterday from an 'early girl' in large pot. It was good, but not great. They will improve as it gets warmer.
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Jun 10, 2019 11:27:50 GMT -5
14 plants, 14 varieties.
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Post by guruofgardens on Jun 10, 2019 21:26:59 GMT -5
At the community garden - 21 tomato plants, 10 varieties.
At home, 10 in the ground, 6 in pots.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 19:56:16 GMT -5
I have no idea how you folks keep your tomato seed true when you grow so many varieties. I have 21 plants in the garden, 7 Brandywine, 7 Early Girl and 7 Better Boy. I will save seed only from Brandywine, planted upwind and away from the others.
Of course I cannot bear to throw away seedlings. I've given plants to the neighbors and I stuck six peppers , a mass of Basil and several more Brandywines in the cold frame after I pulled all the grass and weeds. I also stuck some tomato plants in the asparagus bed, but we won't count those.
I saw a bunny about the size of a fist in the asparagus this afternoon. Snakes and varmints have not gotten them all.
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Post by carolyn on Jun 28, 2019 20:15:20 GMT -5
I have no idea how you folks keep your tomato seed true when you grow so many varieties. I have 21 plants in the garden, 7 Brandywine, 7 Early Girl and 7 Better Boy. I will save seed only from Brandywine, planted upwind and away from the others. I don't. I grow tomatoes for a roadside stand. Its my contribution to the household. I needed to stay put here at home and it is what I can do... so I grow and sell vegetables. I rarely save seeds.
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Jun 29, 2019 1:41:13 GMT -5
The cross rate for tomatoes is usually pretty low. I get a lot of still air here in late spring and summer when the tomato fruits are setting, too. But if there is a lot of bee activity on the tomato plants all bets are off! For example, last year the bumblebees were all over my tomatoes for some reason (usually they find other flowers more appealing and rarely visit the tomatoes). So I knew last year that I was likely to have a lot of bee crosses. I didn't save much tomato seed and I didn't trade what few seeds I did save. I marked my 2018 tomato seeds as not for trade.
Since I don't have enough garden space to use distance for isolation, ideally I would bag unopened tomato blooms (in tulle or other fine mesh bags to keep bees off of them) and keep them in the bag until after fruit has set. However, with the high humidity here my bagged blooms rarely set fruit - even when the unbagged blooms are still setting fruit. So I usually just save seeds from unbagged blooms and hope they didn't cross with anything. I have seen some crosses happen, but they are infrequent.
I DO make sure that anyone I give tomato seeds to knows the seeds are unbagged, and they know there's a chance that the seeds might be crossed. But I am just trading with other gardeners, not selling seed. I would have to find some way to isolate the plants if were selling the seed.
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Post by brownrexx on Jun 29, 2019 6:57:02 GMT -5
I have seen bees working my tomato flowers too but I don't save seeds so I am glad to see the bees.
Beans are also supposed to be self fertile but when my Limas bloom, they are always covered with bumble bees.
I find it interesting to see all of the different kind of bees.
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Post by paquebot on Jun 29, 2019 8:49:57 GMT -5
I have seen bees working my tomato flowers too but I don't save seeds so I am glad to see the bees. Beans are also supposed to be self fertile but when my Limas bloom, they are always covered with bumble bees. I find it interesting to see all of the different kind of bees. Beans and limas are totally unrelated species. Regular beans are Phaseolus vulgaris and limas are Phaseolus lunatus. Blossoms are closed on the vulgarus and open on the lunatus. I've heard that honey from limas is quite good ans very light. If you plant two different limas in close proximity, you are virtually guaranteed a cross. Same applies to runners. For tomatoes, they have no nectar but bees may collect pollen. Honeybees seldom visit them but native bees will. I have yet to see any type of bee working mine.There have been some who say 25' and others deem 10' to 15' or even 5' with a barrier plant is sufficient. One expert whom I will not mention once boasted of growing so close that she had to follow the vine to the main stem to be sure of which it was. Martin The truth is more important than the facts.
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Post by brownrexx on Jun 29, 2019 9:06:02 GMT -5
Blossoms are closed on the vulgarus and open on the lunatus. Thanks, I didn't realize that. I am always learning new things here. I was just in the garden and saw a bumble bee on a tomato flower.
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Post by paulf on Jun 29, 2019 10:31:51 GMT -5
Add five plants to my list. All are volunteers. I have a good idea of what they are because of where they are in relation to last year's plants but not for sure. One has a small fruit on it. Usually they get rouged out but this year they get to stay just to see what happens.
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Post by ahntjudy on Jun 29, 2019 21:51:21 GMT -5
There's a volunteer tomato plant coming up in one of The Man's flower beds... The girl next door to him plants cherry tomato plants every year so I think that's what it is...It looks delicately leafed like a cherry tomato too... I can't plant tomatoes over at The Man's as the squirrels over there just decimate them...
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Jun 29, 2019 21:57:48 GMT -5
Blossoms are closed on the vulgarus and open on the lunatus. Thanks, I didn't realize that. I am always learning new things here. I was just in the garden and saw a bumble bee on a tomato flower. Yes. I don't recall ever seeing a honeybee on a tomato flower (for the reason Martin mentioned), but I do see bumblebees on tomato flowers infrequently. Last year seeing the bumblebees working my tomato flowers so regularly was unusual, since the bumblebees in my yard seem to prefer peppers, eggplants, and a whole host of other flowers to the tomatoes. Thanks for the good info about the flower physiology of limas and runners vs. P. vulgaris beans and how their physiology affects crossing, paquebot .
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Post by september on Jun 29, 2019 22:09:39 GMT -5
I see some nice looking cherry volunteers are coming up from last year's cherry row. I can tell which varieties they are by the leaf forms and where they are sprouting. I think I will dig some up and pot them up in large pots to be moved into my fall greenhouse. If they don't bear until September, that would be perfect. Sweet Aperitif and Karma Pink are two I recognize. A couple of others I would have to check my 2018 planting chart to be sure.
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Post by paquebot on Jun 29, 2019 22:51:09 GMT -5
Sneaking beans back in, Phaseolus coccineus, runner beans, are worse than limas for crossing. I plant one each year just for the hummingbirds due to so much nectar. Seed to Seed calls for ½-mile isolation. I grew Scarlet Runner and a white-seeded variety about 75' apart one time. They managed to cross both ways.
Martin
The truth is more important than the facts.
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