caesg
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Post by caesg on Feb 24, 2020 9:36:49 GMT -5
Anyone have experience with "Fooled You" Jalapeno, "Habanadas" Habanero, or other similar varieties that are developed to have the flavor of the traditional hot pepper without the heat?
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Post by september on Feb 24, 2020 16:15:29 GMT -5
I have not purchased any "fooled you" types, but I had a bee cross in which my Santa Fe Grande (yellow milder jalapeño) must have crossed with a sweet bell, judging from the shapes and flavor I got. The saved seeds had no heat when grown out, but not the sweetness of the bell, either. They did not have good enough flavor for use in salads, and were not hot enough for salsa, but they were ok as frying peppers, which brought out some flavor better.
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Feb 24, 2020 16:42:55 GMT -5
I have grown "Fooled You" jalapeño before, and it just like the description claims - jalapeño taste with no heat. Maybe a tiny tingle if you eat seeds, but it's almost imperceptible even to me, and I am a pepper wimp. This year I am growing the supposedly new and improved variety, "Tricked You." They are seedlings now, so it will be a while before I can assess them.
I also grew NuMex Orange Suave habanero one time because I kept hearing about how tasty habaneros are but I can't handle their heat. Tremendously vigorous plant, and the fruits looked just like orange habaneros, and there were LOTS of them. But I cut down the plant early on because the fruits just didn't taste good. They were bland and had an off-putting flavor note, with none of the lovely fruity flavors I was hoping for. I have heard that there are better-tasting heatless habaneros out there, but after the disappointment with NuMex Orange Suave I haven't been motivated to try another one.
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Post by paquebot on Feb 24, 2020 16:55:36 GMT -5
Fooled You has been an automatic in my gardens for almost as long as it's been around. To really appreciate them, let them get fully ripe. They have the jalapeño taste when green but totally different when ripe. Also, given decent soil, there also may be 30-40 fruit on one plant.
Martin
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Feb 24, 2020 17:18:03 GMT -5
I'll have to remember to let a few ripen and try them, paquebot. (Tricked You is supposed to be basically the same pepper as Fooled You, but with more resistance to Bacterial Spot. Where I live, I want all of the foliage disease resistance I can get!)
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Post by pepperhead212 on Feb 24, 2020 17:33:33 GMT -5
I used to grow fooled you, for my sister, and a lady I knew, and they were really good, as far as the jalapeño flavor. They were one of those "cracked" type jalapeños, in which the skin gets cracked, and not smooth, like most. This is good, for drying or smoking, but they don't store as well. Habanadas did not have enough habanero flavor to use as a substitute. A friend at work loved the flavor, as well as the fact that they were heatless, and I gave him almost all of them. They were incredibly productive. I tried that Numex orange suave years ago, but only once. Had some habanero flavor, but was not very productive, and very late - didn't ripen until late September. The best mild habanero I have grown is the Aji Dulce. This is a true chinense - not a baccatum, like most ajis, and has a really intense habanero flavor. Only around 500 SUs, if that - I've had some that had no heat. And they are very productive - just one plant gives me more than I need for freezing, as well as drying. I keep some of the powder on hand for "diluting" the chocolate habanero powder, and I often use them in dishes with the chocolates, to make them easier to eat for some friends, and occasionally I use them by themselves, for those who can't take any heat. Here's one showing how early they ripen, and another photo showing the final harvest from just one plant! I never harvest them green or orange - only totally ripe, unless the last one of the season. Aji Dulce 8-4-18. Already harvested a few, but really starting to ripen now! by pepperhead212, on Flickr The end of the Aji Dulce peppers 10-28 by pepperhead212, on Flickr
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Post by paquebot on Feb 24, 2020 20:28:41 GMT -5
Grew Habanada once and it was nada all around. It was a pepper that looked like a habanero but that's all it had going for it.
This thread reminded me that I might have some Fooled You in one of the freezers but apparently all were used in sauces and juice. Did find some Ancho Pablano which were only halved. Now have them diced for chili.
FTI The skin t4exture of Fooled You is called netting. There are some real nice Hungarian paprika peppers like that.
Martin
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2020 20:50:31 GMT -5
I am planning on growing some Habanada this year, hope they get some good taste own here !! A couple other other peppers that resemble other super hots but aren't supposed to be hot as well. Then there are the sweets, including several from eastern Europe area, plus elephant ear peppers. And Kambuzi peppers too. Hope it will be a good year for the garden this year as the weather is odd, but nature will do as it pleases!
Edit to add a question: Does anyone know of a source for a variety of sweet pepper called "Sweet Cayenne"?
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Feb 26, 2020 11:22:06 GMT -5
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Post by paquebot on Feb 26, 2020 11:49:39 GMT -5
@imp, if you want just that one from Totally Tomatoes, let me know. I can get it without S & H.
Martin
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2020 1:49:02 GMT -5
Ahh, that would be wonderful, Martin! How can I get you the postage & cost of these to you?
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Post by paquebot on Feb 27, 2020 13:03:51 GMT -5
Sweet Cayenne is ordered. Should be on the truck from Randolph tomorrow. I have appointment with Cardiology tomorrow so will pick up the seeds Saturday. Going to cost me $2.90 with tax. I'll settle for $3 but keep 6 seeds for myself. Can't beat that deal!
Martin
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Post by daylilydude on Feb 27, 2020 19:25:47 GMT -5
You will love them and they are pretty tough as I grew a few in just a Styrofoam cooler and they produced really well they just took forever in a day to turn red... lol!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2020 20:57:58 GMT -5
Thank you, Martin and also everyone who told me about this one. I think it will be good down here and hopefully produce a lot.
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Post by paquebot on Feb 27, 2020 23:30:11 GMT -5
Richard, if they will do as good in those containers, should go great in my soil. Don't have the seeds yet and already know exactly where some are going to be planted. Then find a use for them!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 3:35:38 GMT -5
If they grow well here, I am planning to fry some up in a good olive oil and put them on a sandwich.
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Post by paquebot on Feb 29, 2020 17:51:15 GMT -5
They are already on the way. Could have been a day sooner except that I had an EKG scheduled. Still quicker than if ordered direct. Now have to start the 6 seeds that I kept.
Martin
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Post by Zebi on Mar 3, 2020 15:11:20 GMT -5
The mildest, best tasting, and most prolific (but not the earliest) pepper of that sort I've tried was Aji Dulce 1 from Trade Winds Fruit.
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Post by caesg on Apr 20, 2021 12:27:48 GMT -5
@imp, Did you wind up growing the habanada last year? If so, how did it turn out for you?
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Apr 20, 2021 12:53:41 GMT -5
I just realized I forgot to get Aji Dulce seeds.
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