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Post by paquebot on Mar 29, 2021 23:03:54 GMT -5
At least 50% of the sets now sending up leaves. They don't fool around and quickly produces 5 or 6 leaves. With such an early start, expecting some big bulbs despite no sets bigger than ¼" thick.
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Post by ponyexpress on Apr 21, 2021 9:28:31 GMT -5
Planted mine last weekend in my community garden plot. Looking forward to seeing how they do.
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Post by paquebot on Apr 21, 2021 10:50:30 GMT -5
Just took a close look at mine this morning. Planted 48 sets and have 48 plants. Some of those sets were barely ½" long but enough life to become a new plant. All 8 of the bulbs planted last fall have leaves to 6" or more and on the way to producing seeds. In the house there are still a couple bulbs which are still solid. Definitely a winner in all aspects.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Apr 21, 2021 18:45:35 GMT -5
paquebot, Don’t want to clog up your thread with unimportant information, I just wanted to let you know I’m enjoying this thread. I’m on page 2 so far. It takes me a bit to finish, but I should be caught up in a bit. I’m in short day area, so not able to help, but I still love seeing the rest of you guys working!
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Post by elkhound on May 2, 2021 22:09:34 GMT -5
field report..its early...soooo...but from what i am looking at the amish bottle onions dont seem to fond of my garden. the golden shallots on the other hand are pouring the coal to it growing outstanding. time will tell though.its just starting to get decent here..multiple frost and a freeze the other night..may 8-10th should be last frost. but i seen it frost hard 3rd week in june and smoke every garden in the county a few years ago. gardening is a gamble at times...lol
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Post by paquebot on May 2, 2021 22:42:30 GMT -5
Elk, these take off slow but they still have 7 weeks to put on roots and leaves before they start bulbing. I have trouble with my poor eyes to see what's where. That's how I found that all 48 sets have become plants. In the nursery pot there was one seed that was late. I wanted to fit it in any missing spot but no skips. Now I have 49!
Both red and golden shallots are about at the same stage. Perhaps the goldens are a bit taller but expect both to produce about the same.
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Post by elkhound on May 6, 2021 22:35:47 GMT -5
field report...today i notice a bulge/bloom forming on one of the amish yellow bottle onions.its a small onion and it just forming but its already a tear drop.
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Post by elkhound on Jun 12, 2021 10:58:38 GMT -5
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Post by paquebot on Jun 12, 2021 12:09:25 GMT -5
Nice! Great picture of an onion umbel. Each one of those little white blossoms would produce 3 or 4 seeds if pollinated. If that is the only umbel you have, there may not be fertile seeds. I think that a second plant would be needed. I planted 8 bulbs and latest count was 32 umbels. I will certainly have ample seeds to distribute.
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Post by elkhound on Jun 12, 2021 14:10:35 GMT -5
i have 8 blooms so far.this is best bloom so far.
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Post by paquebot on Jun 12, 2021 15:08:49 GMT -5
That's great news if multiple plants! As near as I am able to determine, you would be the first gardener other than myself to produce seed for probably 15 years. I have not heard if the lone Amish woman was able to maintain them. The person whom I got them from did not continue growing them after losing them for some reason.
Looked at mine just now and some umbels are just about ready to open their flowers. Gave them a good drink so they will have energy to produce a lot of seeds.
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Post by elkhound on Jun 21, 2021 11:29:01 GMT -5
field report...i have 7 blooms on 5 plants in garden. 5 blooms on 3 plants in bucket. the ones in bucket appeared first and are now open mostly. some of the bottle onions have grown pretty large while others are still nothing but little hairs in garden despite regular watering plus miracle grow a few times to try and boost them out of it. they just aint going to do it.they refuse to grow...guess i should go on and cull them from the herd now anyways.
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Post by paquebot on Jun 21, 2021 12:29:50 GMT -5
The flower umbel will remain erect for a long time while the seeds mature. I have not yet seen an open flower but most stalks are 3' tall. I'm anxious to see what bees, wasps, and flies show up when they open.
Don't understand why some sets are not producing bulbs by now. I have never had any plant fail to produce. Maybe small, but always a bulb. Must be some factor that we don't know about yet.
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Post by elkhound on Jul 1, 2021 16:35:36 GMT -5
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Post by paquebot on Jul 1, 2021 16:50:13 GMT -5
Good pictures. Shows what the bottle onions look like when bulbing. Could be some great size there as they are still growing.
Those shallots may end up as good size as well. Only 4 so that usually means big bulbs. Both red and golden here have flopped already and clusters may be up to 10. Possibly the soil was way too rich.
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Post by ponyexpress on Jul 8, 2021 16:22:53 GMT -5
elkhound, Those bottle onions of yours look great. Mine are still wimpy looking. I'll post a picture shortly.
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Post by ponyexpress on Jul 8, 2021 16:25:27 GMT -5
elkhound , Those bottle onions of yours look great. Mine are still wimpy looking. I'll post a picture shortly.
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Post by paquebot on Jul 8, 2021 16:41:33 GMT -5
Pony, your plants are still erect so they are still growing. Also remember that much of the bulb is below ground level. Mine have flopped already so most bulb growth is done.
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Post by september on Jul 8, 2021 23:21:41 GMT -5
My bottle onions are looking rather poor. I forgot to move them into a colder part of the furnace room after they dried down in the house. They were really shriveled when I found them this spring. I planted them anyway, and 3/4 of them did start growing after a hydration period. Then some animal kept coming by and digging holes pulling up onions, and leaving them. I kept reburying, but some did not make i. I have one bulb that divided and one of the halves has a flower and seeds forming. I hope they will be fertile. That will probably be the only flower this summer. The rest of the bulbs have not put on much growth, no doubt due to their poor start and I don't think they will get big enough to be worth eating. If not, I will try to save them again for seed next year.
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Post by ponyexpress on Jul 9, 2021 6:33:08 GMT -5
Pony, your plants are still erect so they are still growing. Also remember that much of the bulb is below ground level. Mine have flopped already so most bulb growth is done. That makes me feel better. The onions that are on the far right in my picture are the ones that I started early. This is something that I will have to do next year so they'll have more time to grow.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jul 9, 2021 11:56:43 GMT -5
paquebot, Hey Bud, I don’t want to interrupt your thread, but I have an onion question. I planted some 1015 very late in the season. I knew they wouldn’t have time to bulb, but I figured we could eat them as green onions. Well...you know how my weather was. It rained over 15 inches May and June. It’s still raining as we speak. I wasn’t able to get to them to pull them up and the weeds took over. I’ll have to mow before I can even get to them. If left there, will they come back next season or are they a lost cause. I know my wild garlic comes back year after year, but I’ve never tried leaving onions in the ground.
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Post by paquebot on Jul 9, 2021 12:18:40 GMT -5
Onions are mainly biennial. That means that their life span is two years. If left a second year, their sole goal is to produce seeds. Thus if you leave them for next year, all you get is seed stalks. Best to eat them as green onions. In fact, I had some late-sown Ailsa Craig which would not have time to make large bulbs. Planted them close together and pulled half today.
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Post by ponyexpress on Jul 9, 2021 12:55:48 GMT -5
Planted them close together and pulled half today. Dixondale suggests planting onions every 2" and then pulling every other as green onions. Has anyone done this? I'm wondering if the remaining onions still get quite big or are they smaller because they don't have enough room? I guess one would pull the green onions up until they start to bulb or shortly thereafter.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jul 9, 2021 14:05:33 GMT -5
Planted them close together and pulled half today. Dixondale suggests planting onions every 2" and then pulling every other as green onions. Has anyone done this? I'm wondering if the remaining onions still get quite big or are they smaller because they don't have enough room? I guess one would pull the green onions up until they start to bulb or shortly thereafter. Well, I give mine more than 2”, but I have lots of space. More like 4” apart. I do pull every other one as green onions. I always plant 1015. It was a bad year for me and I never got to harvest more than one or two. 1015 gets to be a nice sized onion about the size of honey crisp apple.
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Post by paquebot on Jul 9, 2021 14:11:51 GMT -5
One way to plant onions is indeed at 2" spacing. Every third one is pulled as a green onion. The next third is pulled as a spring onion. The remaining are then all at 6" spacing for bulbs. That can be done both with plants and sets. In the case of the Ailsa Craig today, friend had a lot left over so I planted about 25 in a 7-gallon pot at barely an inch spacing. They were intended for green or spring onions from the moment I got them.
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Post by elkhound on Jul 12, 2021 20:18:47 GMT -5
i looked inside one pod thingy and theres black seed inside. i hope its viable seed.
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Post by paquebot on Jul 12, 2021 22:58:57 GMT -5
Elk, if the seeds are there and black, they are viable. If not mistaken there should be 5 seeds per pod. Mine are done with the flower stage and now all pods. A couple of yours in the lower picture look like there are still flowers. Mine opened virtually all the same time.
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Post by ponyexpress on Jul 13, 2021 14:12:39 GMT -5
1015 gets to be a nice sized onion about the size of honey crisp apple. Are you able to grow any storage type onions in Texas? Seems that most of the available onion types don't last long in storage.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jul 13, 2021 17:50:46 GMT -5
1015 gets to be a nice sized onion about the size of honey crisp apple. Are you able to grow any storage type onions in Texas? Seems that most of the available onion types don't last long in storage. I really don’t know to be honest. I’ve only type I’ve grown is white bermuda & 1015.
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Post by hairymooseknuckles on Jul 13, 2021 17:56:19 GMT -5
Ooops, I almost forgot. I tried some red onions a time or two, but they didn’t seem to be nice and sweet. They were pungent.
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