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Post by paulf on Nov 21, 2020 23:30:07 GMT -5
We've got an older pair that spends a lot of time in the yard and every year they have twins and one year triplets. The buck is maybe a six point. The kids must go find their own territory because after the yearling stage they disappear...or maybe they end up as ground deer meat. We don't eat deer meat and I don't own a gun big enough to shoot the adults, so I have built a deer fence around the garden. I tell my friends about the small herd so maybe that's where they go. They love my apples, pears and peaches so I would love to shoot them for that.
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Post by paquebot on Nov 22, 2020 0:13:09 GMT -5
I requested two medium doe this year. One of them is hanging about 45 miles away and waiting for the second one. That's due to be shot tomorrow morning. Last year my request was filled on my birthday. Going to be a couple days early this year. When I go to get the deer, will also get some ground bear meat.
Haven't seen much family success so far. A cousin's grandson is in early teens and got his first deer today, a big doe. Not so much urgency as most of the usual hunters already have full freezers from bow hunting.
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Post by tallpines on Nov 25, 2020 22:24:36 GMT -5
All cut up and in the freezer. Will be taken to a processor and all made into sausage ..... Half for Christmas gifts, the rest for home consumption
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Post by carolyn on Nov 25, 2020 22:36:50 GMT -5
Happy Hunting all of you. everyone that gets bagged for consumption is one that doesn't get in an accident and total a car. We have so many of them now it is terrible. I see dead ones all the time. got hit. my son got one a couple weeks ago that someone hit on his way home from work. he called to ask if someone could come shoot it since it was not dead but couldn't get up either. so, call the game warden, tagged bagged and taken to a friends house who put it in their freezer.
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Nov 25, 2020 22:42:21 GMT -5
Post by tallpines on Nov 25, 2020 22:42:21 GMT -5
The day I shot my deer, I called the Mennonite neighbor to tell him he and his boys could come hunt in our woods. They were appreciating the offer since their family depends of the venison to feed their family through the winter.
Last year they took two does from our woods. With all the deer we have been seeing in our woods, I expected to hear more shooting, but I’ve not heard any near-by shooting since I got mine on Saturday.
Earlier today I did hear, off in the distance, three shots in rapid succession. That always amuses me! What is this ..... needing 3 shots? Bullets are expensive!
Only once did I need a second bullet to finish the job. Otherwise only ONE bullet has always been adequate!
(Yes! I’m bragging! 😁🤪😜
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Post by paquebot on Nov 25, 2020 23:15:54 GMT -5
Three shots mean a running deer. Since I always hunted with a "Magic Triple Deuces", (.222) only standing or walking deer. At 150' it will put 3 shots into a 1" circle. Head or neck were always preferred target. Gave it to my cousin's grandson 3 years ago and he is my designated hunter. Last year's was hit straight into the nose. This year just under an eye. There was a 3-year stretch in the '80s when I pulled the trigger 7 times and dropped 7 deer. That was before I mounted a scope on it!
I grew up hunting squirrels and if I could not see an eye there wasn't a shot. That carried over to deer hunting. I knew how deadly a .22 could be and that's why I bought the smallest legal rifle for deer. With a scope mounted on see-through mounts it's value is well over $1,000 and I gave it away. But it's going to stay in the family this way.
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Post by carolyn on Nov 28, 2020 21:55:07 GMT -5
............... Earlier today I did hear, off in the distance, three shots in rapid succession. That always amuses me! What is this ..... needing 3 shots? Bullets are expensive! Only once did I need a second bullet to finish the job. Otherwise only ONE bullet has always been adequate! (Yes! I’m bragging! 😁🤪😜 Ha! I had to chuckle at this. One morning my son went to the woods to hunt and I heard two shots about 30 secinds apart. Shocked I tell you Shocked! he is a very good shot. can I tell you how much more I was shocked when he drug two deer home that morning for me to butcher and went to work on time... very amusingly shocked!
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Post by paquebot on Nov 30, 2020 17:56:14 GMT -5
Carolyn, a similar story is what happened with a cousin's brother-in-law. He was a competition shooter who never missed. Loved to hunt but did not like eating venison. He was hunting for me about 2005 and I got a message from his niece saying that Don had two bucks for me. That didn't seem right. Indeed, there were two 8-pointers. He saw a buck standing and dropped it with one shot. He reached down to pick up his brass and looked up to see the deer still standing. Fired again and buck dropped again. When he walked up to it, there were two identical deer laying side-by-side. Luckily his niece had a buck tag so both would be legal.
On the other side of the coin, there were 3 times during my hunting years when someone with me shot two with one shot!
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Dec 1, 2020 9:36:22 GMT -5
One of my nieces once killed two wild pigs with a single shot. She was 11 years old at the time. Boy, was her papa ever proud.
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Post by paquebot on Dec 1, 2020 11:58:38 GMT -5
Last time that I was involved in a double was 2001. I was hunting with a disabled man with muscular dystrophy. He used an ATV to reach the edge of the woods and then crawled up the hill to a rock overlooking a deer trail. We both had a buck and doe permit and he was going to shoot for both of us. I made a very long circle around a ridge and slowly moved deer to him. I knew that they would pass right in front of him. I heard 3 shots and each sounded very solid. When I showed up at the edge of the farm fence line. He was really happy to tell me that the deer did exactly as I said they would. Then he pointed out where 3 deer lay. He was a bit shocked when I pointed out a fourth one. His first comment was that he hoped it didn't have antlers. It was a large buck fawn which had been running beside its mother. I dragged those 4 to his ATV and he made 4 trips to the cars. Just about when I was able to rest, heard my son shoot. He had just had a knee operation so off to the other corner of the farm to drag his deer out. Next May, brought Lyme's home along with 16# of morels. That fall, shot a small buck and had all I could do to drag that deer and it was all downhill! That was the end to a lifetime of being a hunter.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2020 15:08:41 GMT -5
I miss having venison.
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Dec 2, 2020 8:33:48 GMT -5
Last time that I was involved in a double was 2001. I was hunting with a disabled man with muscular dystrophy. He used an ATV to reach the edge of the woods and then crawled up the hill to a rock overlooking a deer trail... I was kind of sleepy reading this post, and my brain skipped over the first "with" in your second sentence. I said, "Whaaaat?" Then I went back and re-read the sentence. It read much better the second time.
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Post by paquebot on Dec 2, 2020 9:26:59 GMT -5
Laura, can't hardly imagine where your mind was. I would have enjoyed partnering with him for a lot more hunts as he was a crack shot. Had to rely on others for help after shooting something as his feet just flopped around if he tried to walk. Oddly enough, I never knew his full name but he was a long-time friend of my aunt and I think that was his last year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 11:33:20 GMT -5
Last time that I was involved in a double was 2001. I was hunting with a disabled man with muscular dystrophy. He used an ATV to reach the edge of the woods and then crawled up the hill to a rock overlooking a deer trail... I was kind of sleepy reading this post, and my brain skipped over the first "with" in your second sentence. I said, "Whaaaat?" Then I went back and re-read the sentence. It read much better the second time. OMG, that made me laugh so hard!!! I mean, I cannot imagine Paq doing that, but it was so danged funny!!!
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Post by tallpines on Dec 2, 2020 12:10:14 GMT -5
Sent off a photo of the antler “spikes” from the deer I harvested to my son, who is a Conservation Warden, and, sees many deer antlers. I thought my deer was really good sized for a spike buck, or a buck fawn. His horns were more like ‘stubs’ rather than spikes or nubbins.
Son says ..... more than likely, it was an ADULT buck that had its antlers snapped off very early in the spring. That seemed to be a likely possibility.
We had been seeing a “group” of deer (as many as 20) in our neighborhood, and in very early spring, at least one of those was sprouting some antlers. But then ...... for the rest of the summer, we NEVER again saw any horns again.
So..... now l’m thinking, this guy ..... the one I harvested ..... was probably THAT SAME DUDE!
Wonder how he might have lost his “pride and joy” .... (His family jewels seemed adequately developed.) .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 13:44:03 GMT -5
Gambling with shady characters? Running with loose females? Keeping bad company?
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Post by paquebot on Dec 2, 2020 14:55:45 GMT -5
Shot a spike buck with ag tag in August one time. Started to drag by one spike and it just popped off. Switched to other spike and that did the same. Definitely not attached very solid at that stage.
Biggest buck I ever shot was 13-pointer. Rack wasn't much more than a foot wide but otherwise perfect. When butchering, every rib on one side had been cracked in a straight line. At one time he had been hit by a vehicle and survived. However, changed his calcium system.
Twice we shot half-unicorn bucks. One side normal 3 or 4 points and other side just one long spear. Nothing wrong otherwise and possibly genetic as both on same farm about two years apart.
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Post by Laura_in_FL on Dec 5, 2020 12:55:16 GMT -5
paquebot, it never occurred to me that a rib injury like that could cause a permanent change in the buck's calcium system so that he would grow miniature antlers from then on. How interesting.
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Post by paquebot on Dec 5, 2020 14:01:18 GMT -5
Where the rib breaks were was build ups of calcium as they healed. It causes a mineral imbalance. An injury when fighting may also cause hormonal imbalance for following year. One of the oddest was a nice big buck given to me as a birthday present. As soon as I started skinning I could tell a difference in the meat as it was more doe-like. Got to the front legs and saw why. One leg had been broken when young and was locked straight. He walked everywhere he went so his muscles were soft.
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Post by tallpines on Dec 5, 2020 22:34:06 GMT -5
City boy son ..... not the Game Warden son ..... lives on the edge of a big Minneapolis park where many deer hang out. Couple years back, they frequently saw a big racked buck with one very long (about 10 inches) tine pointed downward, on an otherwise nicely balanced, upright big rack.
When son showed a photo of the deer to his college professor friend .... in the area of animal science .... that’s the same story he was told. Probable former injury of some sort that altered his body chemistry and showed up in his antlers.
I find that all very interesting! I should take some time to read up on it a little more deeply.
Can humans have similar growth aberrations due to injuries in another area of their body?
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Post by paquebot on Dec 6, 2020 10:31:19 GMT -5
Humans use vitamin and mineral supplements for health the same as other critters. On trophy hunting ranches, deer are given access to certain minerals to aid in antler development. Because of that, I don't think that they are eligible for Boone and Crockett records.
Racks with drop tines are certainly different. I have never actually seen one. We have two genetic type racks around here thanks to Frank Lloyd Wright. He bought about two dozen deer from some place in the north or UP in 1946 or 1947. They had the small racks of woodland deer whereas native deer were wide prairie type. Body size is about the same but totally different antlers. It's all in genetics.
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Post by tallpines on Dec 6, 2020 12:35:24 GMT -5
Game Warden son’s first job was in Nebraska. Most all the deer down there had huge racks.
Besides genetics, the thought was that apparently the WATER had a bunch to do with it due to the mineral content.
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Post by theozarkan on Jan 17, 2021 21:02:55 GMT -5
I've put three in the freezer so far this year. I believe the first one is pretty much gone. Our archery season goes until Feb 28 so I'm hopeful for one more but if not we've got some hogs to process so we will still be okay on meat.
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Jan 17, 2021 22:58:18 GMT -5
Post by paulf on Jan 17, 2021 22:58:18 GMT -5
Game Warden son’s first job was in Nebraska. Most all the deer down there had huge racks. For many years we worked and lived in south central Iowa and for one year after another world record racks were taken in the southern Iowa woods and corn stalks. We have been away from there for about 16 years but I bet they still have huge deer there. One story that was very popular was the albino buck with huge antlers. It was supposed to be a myth until some guy shot it. Everyone was disappointed that it was gone but the next year another albino story popped up.
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Post by paquebot on Jan 18, 2021 10:31:12 GMT -5
Albinism seems more common in the far northern part of this state and the UP. When Wright bought a couple dozen to populate Taliesin in the mid-1940s, all were brown. I saw an albino the following year and a few years later there were at least 3 albinos. They still keep showing up in that area.
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